One year after the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, the court is now weighing whether police violated alleged gunman Luigi Mangione’s Miranda rights.
One year after the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, the court is now weighing whether police violated alleged gunman Luigi Mangione’s Miranda rights.
Well I’m essentially citing the article, but your questions are not relevant to the point I was trying to make.
Alright, they do call the notes that, but calling that gun “the murder weapon” is inappropriate. It robs Mangione of his presumption of innocence.
I have a much bigger problem with calling that gun “the murder weapon” anyways. That’s the bigger issue of the two.
We, the public, know a little bit more about the contents of the notebook than the article lets on. See this for example, about a different hearing. There are some entries I would describe as “pretty incriminating”, and it seems like the notebook would be an important source of motive and mens rea evidence for the prosecution.
And to underscore the seriousness of the backpack gun: it’s the same kind of gun that was reported as used at the scene. The prosecution hasn’t yet alleged that the backpack gun is the murder weapon, but it is a reasonable speculation that they will. And if they do allege that, it is also reasonable to speculate that they might introduce ballistic and tool mark evidence at trial to match the backpack gun to bullets from the victim’s body.
The prosecution has not yet revealed the existence of any other physical evidence. No prints or DNA, etc. So there is a possibility, in a hypothetical trial, that the backpack gun might be the only physical link between Mr. Mangione in Altoona, and Brian Thompson in Manhattan.
So it would be a big deal to the case if the backpack evidence is suppressed.
I’m glad that you, the person I was trying to respond to, understands the point I’m trying to make without treating me like the prosecution.
I’m not a court of law. I don’t owe Mangione anything. Go argue your point to someone who cares.
Explain to us what point you were trying to make by misrepresenting allegations as established fact, then.
I was clarifying for the commenter why Mangione’s lawyers were trying to argue that he was inappropriately detained. He suggested it was because of statements made that he wants to retract. I suggested it was more likely because they wanted the search of his bag and the discovery of the murder weapon or notes thrown out.
Also fuck off with this misrepresentation of facts crap. I don’t owe Luigi or you anything. If I think he committed the murder then I can shout it from the rooftops if I want to. Welcome to the Court of Public Opinion! We all know he did it it, and with the gun from his bag. Lawyers in court have to argue and prove a high bar to prosecute. I on the other hand do not!