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      Pretty solid collection IMO. I am surprised they haven’t included any RPGs (say one CRPG like Ultima 6 and one jRPG like say Final Fantasy 7).

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          Eve Online and The Sims are excellent additions. But they are not RPGs.

          I would personally include VTMB or Deus Ex, but from a broader perspective probably one of the Ultimas (6 or 7 are considered the best I believe) would be more appropriate.

          Don’t play jRPGs, but from my understanding FF7 is considered the “best in genre” release.

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            Of course they are role-playing games, you completely assume the role of a character in another world, even with stat sheets. What kind of role-playing game is Deus Ex, where you play a pre-defined character in a pre-defined plot? The Masquarade is certainly a janky fan favourite, but hardly revolutionary. CRPGs made a shift, from being tabletop simulators and dungeon crawlers (with MOMA contenders like Rogue, Wizardry, or as you suggested Ultima) to games about narrative manifolds. Disco Elysium would be my pick.

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              With Deus Ex you definitely can play very different characters with a broad spectrum of personalities and narrative decisions. Although I do agree that an argument can be made it’s not an RPG.

              Eve is a sandbox MMO and The Sims is lifeim, don’t really see how they are RPGs.

              Very few RPGs execute the role playing component so well as VTMB IMO.

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                EVE is described by its publisher as an MMORPG and yeah, you have stats and individual ressources and interact with the world and other players. You play a character, a role, the very definition of a role-playing game. Same with The Sims, but offline for yourself and less geopolitical. RPGs are not only games where you directly control a single character or a group of characters and kill stuff, and sometimes pick a lock or something.