• frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    You’re comparing two things:

    • Actually observed collective pride in nations

    • Pride in hypothetical tribal bands that may have never existed

    And saying the first is “silly” but the second is what we’re built for.

    Understanding collective pride in its actual form is less silly than pushing into some dreamed-of past.

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      5 days ago

      When you say “pride in hypotetycal tribal bands that may have never existed” what do you mean? You don’t believe that human beings evolved in tribes or don’t believe the members of these tribes felt a sense of common well-being that we call “pride” which have helped our evolution?

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        Various tribal structures have existed and still do (I’m a registered member of a clan, was clan secretary at one point) but Rousseau’s bands are a fantasy with no archæological basis.

        I see to reason to speculate on history when we have collective pride visible in our daily experience. Especially not to say the former is valid and the really-experienced one isn’t.