The Advocate is the world’s leading source of LGBTQ+ news and information. Capturing the political and cultural conversations of the community through award-winning journalism, compelling photography and video, and vital commentary, The Advocate is the queer paper of record.
Whilst I see those things the same as you do, I’m thinking that because this website is specifically about LGBTQ+ people and news about things relevant to them and things that happen to people in that group, it is relevant to THAT website that the person in question is queer, hence their title, and as articles posted here should keep the title as is, we in this Lemmy forum ended up with a post linked to an article were the title which points out a trait of the person being charged that is wholly irrelevant to what has happened to that person.
If it ever happened that a Playboy article about something bad that had happened to an ex-bunny was linked here, you might get a post here with, say, a “Sexy ex-bunny hit and killed by falling meteorite” title, which in the context of Lemmy has a strong “those are strange characteristics to mention about a person who got hit by a meteorite” vibe, but in the context of the place were the original article was posted makes absolute sense to mention.
Fair enough, but then I’m wondering what’s the point of Advocate. I’d assume it’s “news that relates to being queer”, not “regular news that happens to involve queer people”. Something like “Random lesbian is victim of parking lot fender-bender” doesn’t make sense to me.
Mate, it’s as relevant as “Guns, Guns, Guns”, “Construction Worker Magazine” or “Golfer Weekly” (all made up names for illustration purposes only) - they’re domains around which people have formed communities which talk about things in that domain because they care about it and find it interesting to know about weird stuff that happens to members of the community.
I don’t see Sexual Orientation as an area any less likely or deserving to have communities formed around it than Sports, Hobbies or Jobs.
Of course, in the US Sexual Orientation has been politicized way more that other areas, but it’s exactly my point that we shouldn’t treat it any different, even if American Politicians have chosen it as an arena for performative moralism - it’s exactly by treating it as no more or less important than anything else (as done in plenty of other countries) that one rises above the American Political Kabuki around it.
I’m fully on board with a publication about queer issues, I just don’t think this is a queer issue. It wouldn’t make sense for “Guns, Guns, Guns” magazine to have an article “Journalist (who happens to also be a gun owner in their private life) charged with hate crime for coverage of NYT vandalism”.
Have you ever perused any of the trades or farming magazines: silly “news” about things that have happened to somebody in that trade are often there, not least because those magazines have to come up with stuff to fill a magazine every week.
Also don’t get me started about the ridiculous “news” around Sports personalities in Sports magazines or about Celebrities in Celebrity magazines.
“Famous member of our community unfairly charged with crime” articles aren’t exactly a crazy thing to expect in a magazine about a community that’s built around things that people are rather than merely objects (in the latter one would indeed expect mainly articles about the objects rather than about people).
News media around communities publishes articles about the things that their readers might be interested in, not the general news that interests people outside the community, and articles about nasty things done to or happening to members of a community (and also a journalist, like the people that wrote the article, quite possible an acquaintance of them) do fall into that category.
Of course, all that shit happening in the US, it’s quite possible that Politics did influence the decision of publishing the article, but then that’s pure speculation, just like expecting that this person’s sexual orientation is what prompted them being charged like this for a ridiculous made up crime is pure speculation.
Yes I get that, but their queerness is as immaterial to this issue as them being left-handed or the colour of their eyes.
You very evidently don’t get it
Whilst I see those things the same as you do, I’m thinking that because this website is specifically about LGBTQ+ people and news about things relevant to them and things that happen to people in that group, it is relevant to THAT website that the person in question is queer, hence their title, and as articles posted here should keep the title as is, we in this Lemmy forum ended up with a post linked to an article were the title which points out a trait of the person being charged that is wholly irrelevant to what has happened to that person.
If it ever happened that a Playboy article about something bad that had happened to an ex-bunny was linked here, you might get a post here with, say, a “Sexy ex-bunny hit and killed by falling meteorite” title, which in the context of Lemmy has a strong “those are strange characteristics to mention about a person who got hit by a meteorite” vibe, but in the context of the place were the original article was posted makes absolute sense to mention.
Fair enough, but then I’m wondering what’s the point of Advocate. I’d assume it’s “news that relates to being queer”, not “regular news that happens to involve queer people”. Something like “Random lesbian is victim of parking lot fender-bender” doesn’t make sense to me.
Mate, it’s as relevant as “Guns, Guns, Guns”, “Construction Worker Magazine” or “Golfer Weekly” (all made up names for illustration purposes only) - they’re domains around which people have formed communities which talk about things in that domain because they care about it and find it interesting to know about weird stuff that happens to members of the community.
I don’t see Sexual Orientation as an area any less likely or deserving to have communities formed around it than Sports, Hobbies or Jobs.
Of course, in the US Sexual Orientation has been politicized way more that other areas, but it’s exactly my point that we shouldn’t treat it any different, even if American Politicians have chosen it as an arena for performative moralism - it’s exactly by treating it as no more or less important than anything else (as done in plenty of other countries) that one rises above the American Political Kabuki around it.
I’m fully on board with a publication about queer issues, I just don’t think this is a queer issue. It wouldn’t make sense for “Guns, Guns, Guns” magazine to have an article “Journalist (who happens to also be a gun owner in their private life) charged with hate crime for coverage of NYT vandalism”.
Have you ever perused any of the trades or farming magazines: silly “news” about things that have happened to somebody in that trade are often there, not least because those magazines have to come up with stuff to fill a magazine every week.
Also don’t get me started about the ridiculous “news” around Sports personalities in Sports magazines or about Celebrities in Celebrity magazines.
“Famous member of our community unfairly charged with crime” articles aren’t exactly a crazy thing to expect in a magazine about a community that’s built around things that people are rather than merely objects (in the latter one would indeed expect mainly articles about the objects rather than about people).
News media around communities publishes articles about the things that their readers might be interested in, not the general news that interests people outside the community, and articles about nasty things done to or happening to members of a community (and also a journalist, like the people that wrote the article, quite possible an acquaintance of them) do fall into that category.
Of course, all that shit happening in the US, it’s quite possible that Politics did influence the decision of publishing the article, but then that’s pure speculation, just like expecting that this person’s sexual orientation is what prompted them being charged like this for a ridiculous made up crime is pure speculation.
I like the way you’ve framed it here… Consider me won over.