• zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    Ok but

    people insist on buying and driving cars

    because of

    oil industry lobbyists … making cities more car-centric

    I hear you when you say

    look how much of a stink suburbanites raise any time a city wants to get rid of some car lanes to put in a bike lane. Look at the fury when cities introduce congestion pricing

    However, it’s important to understand that those people are absolute donuts, and their complaints should not be taken seriously or reflect on the rest of us.

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      6 days ago

      I just think that “the rest of us” includes a lot of people who drive daily, but still like to blame oil companies.

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        6 days ago

        We blame oil companies because, as you yourself said (see my previous comment where I quoted you), the oil companies are to blame.

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          6 days ago

          No, people’s lifestyles are to blame. Oil companies meet the demand. They partially shape people’s behaviour, but people still have choices, and most westerners choose to destroy the environment and blame the oil companies.

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                5 days ago

                If I’ve missed your point, it’s because you haven’t made it very clear. It’s obvious I read your comment, my reply to it was almost entirely quotes from it.

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                  5 days ago

                  I think you’re intentionally misreading it because it was pretty obvious:

                  Sure, oil companies use lobbying which influences people and policy. But, ultimately people make their own choices and most of the time they choose the convenient option which destroys the planet. But, they get to blame the oil company, not their own decisions.