Old School Runescape. I have multiple characters, but started from scratch a month ago, already have 250 hours of play time on it.

But can the Netherlands do it? Do they only bike in the rural parts?

Sure, if people could just ride 10 km and then be at work, I see the point in it. But there are A LOT of places that are much further from the bigger cities where the actual jobs are. Out there you’d need to ride 10 km to even get to a bus, that may or may not come by once every hour. That bus can take you to a trainstation where a train will usually come by every hour. Then you can take that train to a bigger city where you can work, but that can easily be an hour. So at this point, if you time your initial bike trip to the bus right, you may already spend in excess of 2 hours, just to get to a large city where the jobs are. Now you need to take another bus to get to your actual job. Meaning 4+ hours round trip. It is not feasible for a person with family to do this.

Sure the person can just move to the city, where houses cost 5x more, and simple appartments cost half their paycheck.

Yes I am. I don’t expect people to ride a bike 10 km til at bus station in places where it’s simply not feasible to make bike lanes.

Edit. Not to mention. You ride a bike 10 km to a bus, then take that bus for 20 minutes to a trainstation, then wait anything between 5 to 55 minutes for a train to show up, then ride that train for 1 hour to get to a big city, and then take another bus for 20 minutes to your job. No way am I spending 4+ hours in transport every day, if a car can do it in 1,5 hours.

My perspective is coming from Denmark. Around most of the country, a car is essential. Most of the country is farmland. People live on this farmland, and without a car, getting to work, buying groceries, getting to the doctor, is simply not feasible.

I don’t own a car, because I live in a city, but I grew up somewhere, where you can’t live without a car.

So why do people live out there? Because they’re farmers, construction workers and everything else an area with a lot of agriculture needs.

Also important to remember that not everywhere can be made walkable or makes sense to make public transit. You don’t want a bus route that picks up 2 people every day. That’s just worse than those 2 people having their own electric car.

A lot of people in the world are living in rural places where public transit is worse for the environment and bikes aren’t a realistic way to get from a to b. In these places electric vehicles are the only better alternative.

You’re right. Us, the consumers, will only ever benefit from more competition for our money. Also, the people who wanted to buy Horizon already did, if they like the theme and playstyle they may also buy this other one, but it’s not like Horizon is losing buyers on this.

I’m not entirely sure this can be put on the band. They were young people who had no idea how to handle or even see what was going on.