I’ll make it simple, as I don’t care about losing “that argument”: Don’t feed the troll

So in other words you’re trolling and don’t care about being right or wrong…

Ok, right the details are a lot of work to “survive”. In case you’re really completely isolated from society. I agree with that. Definition of harmony is what I probably missed (I did not necessarily mean the romantic understanding of it), you’re a lot more dependent on it. I did though in fact live somewhat remote for some time (as volunteer) and did indeed thrive there, I like hard rather primitive work in nature. The exact circumstances are also important (i.e. does it rain a lot, is climate mild, is winter hard (heating etc.)). But… you actually do stuff that makes sense, as your survival depends on it. Not like having to fix zillions of bugs in an overabstracted frontend, having to deal with incompetent but arrogant and power hungry bosses and all that artificial stress we have put our lives in. Or having to read the non ending negative influx of idiocracy that Trump produces everyday.

I rather like to keep things more fundamental. And I think if you’re up for it (i.e. active/fit, craftly etc.) it can be fullfilling. Obviously it’s not as romantic as you probably imagine most of the time. But I rather like to deal with this than having to get angry about society not seeing that our probably most important problem is climate change and not migrants etc. and not caring enough about it.

So you’re extrapolating from this single case? As I say, if you know what you’re doing it’s less effort than you think, you let nature do its thing for you and just nudge it in the right direction, so you just harvest the fruits. And yet again, just because that lifestyle isn’t for you it can still be for others…

And that is relevant how? I don’t say that it’s a lifestyle for the average person, definitely not.

Not sure if you have control over it, but the ones I’ve used didn’t even smell when directly smelling over them. Not sure if there was something mixed in there too, to reduce the smell further. The owners used the resulting humus as fertilizer too.

In theory cities are more efficient, than living off-grid, I agree.

In reality though if you’re really careful and know what you’re doing (and are really disciplined and have educated yourself), you can live a true carbon neutral life.

All the infrastructure in cities and everything around modern life is just destructive in so many ways unfortunately…

And unfortunately the mass of people don’t care enough, to initiate the necessary systemic changes to make cities truly sustainable…

Counterpoint: I tried and I want to leave this broken society even more now (especially since societal enshitification seems to even accelerate).

Though you still need social contacts (that you really like) to avoid loneliness, so in case you have that, it’s a wonderful, peaceful and healthy way to live more in harmony with nature, but it’s a lot of work nonetheless.

I have a quite good experience with these, and was surprised how little they smell (but it was an outside toilet with an incredible view)

One thing doesn’t negate the other.

I’m honestly shocked that it’s already at 3+% Think about how it changes in the future when it further warms. Also, it has local effects, of further firing the situation, i.e.it get’s measurably warmer in cities. Take Phoenix for example, in the future, there may be times, if you don’t have an extremely well working respiratory system, that you’ll die outside because of heat stress…