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Cake day: June 23rd, 2023

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  • This makes total sense. What’s frustrating is that everyone focuses on the religious choice aspect while not asking the real question like why was this one person in charge of the entire county when it was known she had an issue. I’m sure this would lead to a larger investigation to find she wasn’t the only one with the issue of marrying a same-sex couple.

    Really, the county should be held accountable, not this woman. The county has the obligation to marry same-sex couples. The county staffed one person whom they probably knew would have this issue.

    The county should reprimand the woman for not fulfilling her duties as a representative, she should have sued the county for putting her in that position by not hiring someone else, and the couple should have sued the county. I’m not really familiar enough with the case to know how this actually went down.



  • That’s not a comparable situation though. There’s no reasonable expectation that those places would sell you pork. The employee who works there isn’t (not) doing anything that conflicts with the business’ offerings.

    Even if a muslim employee at a barbecue restaurant were to deny a customer a rack of ribs, the restaurant is under no obligation to serve you.

    This issue is about a representative of the county rejecting the county’s obligations.


  • I genuinely do not understand how this was ever a case. You are an employee at an office that provides a service. You are a representative of that organization. And, as a civil service employee, I would expect you are obligated by the laws of that county or state to facilitate the services offered.

    Davis, as the Rowan County Clerk in 2015, was the sole authority tasked with issuing marriage licenses on behalf of the government under state law.

    ON BEHALF OF

    Regardless if you’re in this position or you’re the president, you are obligated by the state or federal constitution to operate as a representative of that jurisdiction’s laws.

    If she took on this job while knowing it would conflict with her religious views, or the laws changed in a matter that conflicted with her views, she should have notified the county and she should have been denied or removed from that position. Although, I’m sure that raises a different case in denying someone employment based on their religion.


  • I don’t know if you’re intentionally being contrarian or you legit aren’t comprehending the story.

    Are you taking offense that your home made meal is being called out in this one line, “The top sources included burgers and sandwiches, sweet baked goods, savory snacks, pizza and sweetened drinks.”?

    Are you not comprehending that this is referring specifically to the total calories coming from ultra processed foods and that these foods include burgers? It is not saying that all burgers are ultra processed. It’s saying that the category of highly caloric ultra processed foods includes, among many other things, burgers.

    The same could be said for pizza. If I make a pizza at home - flour, yeast, tomatoes, mozz, oil - it’s not going to have any ultra processed ingredients. If I go to Pizza Hut and get a meat lovers pizza with a stuffed crust and ranch dressing, that’s going to be ultra processed.

    These are simple words used to broadly define categories of foods with the assumption that people understand they’re not going to list out every fast food and restaurant burger in the United States sorted by calories and ultra processed ingredients.




  • but “ultra processed” not defined by any metric

    This is the shit that grinds me. You have the world’s information at your finger tips and you’re making a wild claim that there isn’t a definition for something and basing your argument around that. You have gone this far in your life with the belief that there is no definition “but any metric” for Ultra Process foods?

    Don’t you think that’s a little absurd to think this? I mean, it’s literally in the word. Not processed – ultra processed; meaning, roughly, that the food or ingredients in that food are processed again after initial processing.

    What I will grant you is that this word is sometimes thrown around inappropriately. You (and us all) have every right to be upset by this confusion and misrepresentation.

    https://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/what-know-about-processed-and-ultra-processed-food

    Category 4: Ultra-processed foods are industrial formulations made from food components. They include additives that are rare or nonexistent in culinary use, like emulsifiers, hydrogenated oils, synthetic colors, texture improvers or flavor enhancers. Think chips, soda, instant soup, pastries and mass-produced breads.

    https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/public-health-nutrition/article/un-decade-of-nutrition-the-nova-food-classification-and-the-trouble-with-ultraprocessing/2A9776922A28F8F757BDA32C3266AC2A

    Ultra-processed foods, such as soft drinks, sweet or savoury packaged snacks, reconstituted meat products and pre-prepared frozen dishes, are not modified foods but formulations made mostly or entirely from substances derived from foods and additives, with little if any intact Group 1 food.

    Ingredients of these formulations usually include those also used in processed foods, such as sugars, oils, fats or salt. But ultra-processed products also include other sources of energy and nutrients not normally used in culinary preparations. Some of these are directly extracted from foods, such as casein, lactose, whey and gluten. Many are derived from further processing of food constituents, such as hydrogenated or interesterified oils, hydrolysed proteins, soya protein isolate, maltodextrin, invert sugar and high-fructose corn syrup.

    Additives in ultra-processed foods include some also used in processed foods, such as preservatives, antioxidants and stabilizers. Classes of additives found only in ultra-processed products include those used to imitate or enhance the sensory qualities of foods or to disguise unpalatable aspects of the final product. These additives include dyes and other colours, colour stabilizers; flavours, flavour enhancers, non-sugar sweeteners; and processing aids such as carbonating, firming, bulking and anti-bulking, de-foaming, anti-caking and glazing agents, emulsifiers, sequestrants and humectants.

    A multitude of sequences of processes is used to combine the usually many ingredients and to create the final product (hence ‘ultra-processed’). The processes include several with no domestic equivalents, such as hydrogenation and hydrolysation, extrusion and moulding, and pre-processing for frying.

    The overall purpose of ultra-processing is to create branded, convenient (durable, ready to consume), attractive (hyper-palatable) and highly profitable (low-cost ingredients) food products designed to displace all other food groups. Ultra-processed food products are usually packaged attractively and marketed intensively.


  • In a rare public rebuke, Trump said Monday that he does not agree with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s assessment that no one is starving in Gaza.
    “Based on television, I would say not particularly,” Trump said. "Because those children look very hungry.”

    Based. On. Television.

    “I can unequivocally say that what happened to innocent people in Israel on Oct 7th was horrific,” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., a close Trump ally, wrote Sunday on X. “Just as I can unequivocally say that what has been happening to innocent people and children in Gaza is horrific. This war and humanitarian crisis must end!”

    Hate to agree with this ****, but this is exactly correct. This is the issue with politics becoming so polarized. People are choosing their team over reality. Republicans (mostly) are choosing party and power over morality.

    I’m not holding my breath. He does not give a shit about starving children. Someone made a deal with Trump - feed the kids and we’ll buy more from the US - or something.

    This guy is dead set on turning Gaza into a golf resort. https://time.com/7212848/trump-gaza-own/

    That’s the con - defund and delegitimize until all that’s left is rubble. Then you buy what’s left at a fractions of a penny on the dollar.

    However, if this action increases his popularity and gets his followers to push him towards doing more for humanitarian aid, that’s a huge step in the right direction. Maybe we could get more funds for FEMA and NOAA.