I miss record liners and lyrics and all the pictures. Ill check bandcamp out sometime

To have access to those originals, or just getting to experience remasters that are worth the time to listen to would be worth the cost to store. Its not just the medium of storage though, right. It is about hearing it, fully just as it was intended and we have given a lot of that up as a compromise to abstracting compression.

Thats wild you still have tapes! Do you have a VAC in your garage too? I kid.

There is a huge fidelity difference between physical media, as much as I have enjoyed mp3 it always sounded off and we know why. Data storage is still an enormous premium, I had hoped the future would reduce the price to access any media due to it not having to be printed, pressed or otherwise transferred physically, but that pipe dream is long gone.

I feel like this opinion is more damaging to the cause than most people realize. Accessibility and usability are just so important, I would never demand that the opensource community do this task as it should be a cost to consumers just not like the SASS model we are currently dealing with.

I think I would like the world to be different, I just dont know how to get there yet.

No doubt that the black box solution is out of reach as of yet, but as technology moves forward the changes become less and less of a delta and it could be possible in the future. I would like to look at this solution like we look at video game consoles, or Roku even.

Your setup sounds like a dream, kinda jealous of your hosting solution, gotta admit. Thanks for all the great info, youre a great person!

Revanced is a project that works exclusively with YT content as far as I can tell, right? This is an interesting project, i will try to follow along.

Back almost a decade ago I was using Google Fi and it had access to YT Music when that existed. It was easy to use, but the content was limited and I found it very hard to find new music.

Yea, Ive got a Jbod sitting around somewhere. Just being pedantic but thats not forever either, there is no physical media that so far will last into infinity. I really thought that was where we would be by now considering how popular VHS, DVD and Vinyl and CDs were.

In your estimate how many hours a month do you need to upkeep all of those services? What about your power bill? Im nitpicking because I am interested in doing something similar. Ive played with these services before but as a hobby PoC thing and not serious usage. Nextcloud I had some issues with dockerized containers, Jellyfin was nice but had its own cons. Plex has been great but I dont want to pay to access my own content on mobile.

I have become frustrated with Apple musics library management as the only Apple products I use are iPhones anyway

Ive worked in IT before. If things ran as smoothly as you claim, I dont think you would have much of a job. I have had a pi-hole brick itself during an update, routers crash, home PCs just stop working.

You and I have the necessary skills to accomplish what needs to be done, just the basics of reverse proxy or ssh tunnels are damn near magic to most people. Hell, could you imagine walking your tech-illiterate neighbor through the process of it all and then expect them to keep it up without contacting you all time. I can not, which, is one of the reasons why I dont work IT anymore.

For real though, I believe that self-hosting is the only future for most of what are talking about here. I thought it was the most logical next step after everyone had libraries of music and movies at home in the 90s. I had assumed most people would want to keep those and would digitize.

The process to make that happen, and the hardware, are just not accessible to others outside our field. I would like to see a closer to all-in-one-solution become available. A system one could purchase with software ready to go all where you have to do is load it with content. Hell, call it a Spoopify Box or something equally ridiculous and you could VC angel funding in a week in SF.

Theres a link posted in this thread about deezer and how its own by a russian oligarch and donates to the Right in the US at least

Understand the argument of perpetuity but thats certainly not what I would ask for. CDs and physical media have a life expectancy too but at least I can make copies of those.

Thank you for the rec. I will check it out, looks like theres even a mobile app.

I was just complaining about selfhosting but this, this makes me choose violence

Its such a massive PitA to self-host things. Dont get me wrong I love the idea of it, it works in theory, and then you get an update for one of the multiple services you have to run to make it work ex-prem, or your isp does some funky stuff and drops out. There is such a massive time sink into self hosting that its not a reliable answer for 90% of people.

I feel like this might not work as a mobile solution but will look into it

Isnt Tidal responsible for the problems of high quality music formats like .ogg? Making it hard to find and download from them.

Is there anywhere that guarantees access to purchases forever? Ive purchased music in the past from other providers that went under and lost access to it all.

Is there another music streaming service around, so I can leave? I use it damn near everyday and the accessibility is what I crave.