Can the roughly 1000 people per minute board the metro in a minute?
Or rather, since there are 2 metros in 9m, and traffic in all directions, can 500 people board a metro in a minute if another 500 people have to unboard first, or just 100 if not everybody uses the same stop?
As you said, not every one of the 1000 board/unboard on the same stop.
So, let’s analyze your 100 per stop figure:
The modern (subway) trains that I use daily can carry 1000 people, are roughly 120m long, and have 18 double doors per side. That’s like 6 people per door, totally doable.
Not a problem. Stations where a lot of people board and unboard at the same time have sometimes platform where one side is for boarding, and the other for unboarding. Plus, trains can have more doors per car.
Yes, these kinds of transfer numbers are easily possible (even though other posters have said you don’t actually have 1,000 getting on or off at one stop). As an example, consider the subway of Toronto, Canada on its busiest line, Line 1. A subway train is 138m (450 ft) long with 6 cars (though there is no internal barrier between cars) and a capacity of about 1,500 people. Each car has 4 door sets per side, and these door sets are about 1.5m (5 ft) wide. People can easily fit through them in pairs, so moving 4 or more people per door set when in a rush is very doable. With 24 door sets (only one side opens at a station), that’s 96 people entering or exiting per second, so 10 or 11 seconds for 1,000 people. If you think 4 per second per door is too optimistic, then it’s 1,000 people in 20 seconds.
Usually these systems rely on people getting on/off at different stops, rather than one stop seeing full volume. If it’s one stop, chances are it’ll look like a terminus station and you’ll need several platforms and possibly dual-side boarding to each train. It’ll be quite a bit wider than tracks with no station, or a minimalist station.
This is pretty common at major sports arenas.
The same of course applies to other transit options: high-capacity bus stops take up space, and motorway interchanges and especially carparks also take up a lot of space.
If you want to account for boarding platforms in the metro example, you also have to account for the parking in the car example to make a reasonably fair comparison.
Usually these systems rely on people getting on/off at different stops, rather than one stop seeing full volume. If it’s one stop, chances are it’ll look like a terminus station and you’ll need several platforms and possibly dual-side boarding to each train. It’ll be quite a bit wider than tracks with no station, or a minimalist station.
yeah, on the tram line i typically take, we have like 1 stop where lots of people get on/off, like 30 people per door, and it always takes 1-2 minutes to unload all the people/new people to enter. i think it’s just outright planned-into into the route’s timing plan.
Can the roughly 1000 people per minute board the metro in a minute?
Or rather, since there are 2 metros in 9m, and traffic in all directions, can 500 people board a metro in a minute if another 500 people have to unboard first, or just 100 if not everybody uses the same stop?
As you said, not every one of the 1000 board/unboard on the same stop. So, let’s analyze your 100 per stop figure: The modern (subway) trains that I use daily can carry 1000 people, are roughly 120m long, and have 18 double doors per side. That’s like 6 people per door, totally doable.
Have you ridden trains? Like, commuter trains? the NYC subway handles millions of riders per day. The trains have many doors.
Not a problem. Stations where a lot of people board and unboard at the same time have sometimes platform where one side is for boarding, and the other for unboarding. Plus, trains can have more doors per car.
Yes, these kinds of transfer numbers are easily possible (even though other posters have said you don’t actually have 1,000 getting on or off at one stop). As an example, consider the subway of Toronto, Canada on its busiest line, Line 1. A subway train is 138m (450 ft) long with 6 cars (though there is no internal barrier between cars) and a capacity of about 1,500 people. Each car has 4 door sets per side, and these door sets are about 1.5m (5 ft) wide. People can easily fit through them in pairs, so moving 4 or more people per door set when in a rush is very doable. With 24 door sets (only one side opens at a station), that’s 96 people entering or exiting per second, so 10 or 11 seconds for 1,000 people. If you think 4 per second per door is too optimistic, then it’s 1,000 people in 20 seconds.
Usually these systems rely on people getting on/off at different stops, rather than one stop seeing full volume. If it’s one stop, chances are it’ll look like a terminus station and you’ll need several platforms and possibly dual-side boarding to each train. It’ll be quite a bit wider than tracks with no station, or a minimalist station.
This is pretty common at major sports arenas.
The same of course applies to other transit options: high-capacity bus stops take up space, and motorway interchanges and especially carparks also take up a lot of space.
If you want to account for boarding platforms in the metro example, you also have to account for the parking in the car example to make a reasonably fair comparison.
yeah, on the tram line i typically take, we have like 1 stop where lots of people get on/off, like 30 people per door, and it always takes 1-2 minutes to unload all the people/new people to enter. i think it’s just outright planned-into into the route’s timing plan.