• Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    I remember from history class that a boat of Jewish refugees was turned away from several ports during WW2. Wild to have lived long enough to see that reason completely flip and have a decadent cruise turned away for supporting genocide.

      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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        11 days ago

        Israel exists because there wasn’t anywhere in the world that would grant Jews asylum in WW2. Rejecting boatloads of Jews is continuing the strong case for the need for a Jewish state.

        And you can’t call Jews living in Israel “colonists” as if they can “go back to Europe” now. They can’t leave Israel now,

        On one hand there’s a large number of people that want to “wipe Israel off the map” and on the other hand we have European countries not allowing Jews to enter. So what is the meaning behind “wipe Israel off the map” now?

        I used to think a Jewish state wasn’t necessary, though I didn’t have a problem with there being one. I figured we’d never go back to a to the dark times of the past. But now I’m absolutely convinced that a Jewish state is 100% necessary. So… congratulations, protesters?

        • agelord@lemmy.world
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          11 days ago

          The Israelis are colonists who are committing a genocide in order to expand their colony.

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          11 days ago

          They are called colonists because they are litterly colonizing land in occupied territories. The government consists of parties that openly call for this.

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            8 days ago

            They are called colonists because in your information bubble that’s the worst thing anyone could ever be. If you were terming the settlers in the West Bank to be colonizers, sure I could understand that.

            But I think you mean all Israelis are colonizers (even those who are just living where they were born) as a way to dehumanize Israelis and to rationalize the ethnic cleansing of Jews.

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              7 days ago

              You’re just rationalizing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. Colonisation is at the core in the Israeli government. Call a spade a spade

        • drhodl@lemmy.world
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          11 days ago

          I’m 70 years old and have always supported Israel until now, but I am starting to believe that the world would be better off without Israel. They function with a complete absence of honor and humanity, and completely lack the ability to compromise fairly. Israel is an irritant to a peaceful world.

              • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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                8 days ago

                Yes, and insulting people instead of responding to what they said is the height of maturity.

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              11 days ago

              What is it with your obsession with jews? There are also christians and other religions in the tsahal and they deserve death too

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              11 days ago

              They didn’t even use the word “Jew” in their reply. So why are you conflating the 2?

              Holy mental gymnastics, Batman.

              • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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                10 days ago

                The thing is with dog whistles is that the people that use them think they’re being clever and fooling everyone. But it doesn’t really fool anyone, and those that use the dog whistles pretend to be offended when you start talking about the subject they’re really talking about.

                Seen it hundreds of times with the MAGAs and y’all are no different from them.

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                10 days ago

                We’re in a thread under an article celebrating how Israelis aren’t welcome in other countries.

                So that indicates eliminating Israel isn’t just about ethnically cleansing Jews from the area, since you don’t want there to be anywhere else for them to go. So what does “eliminating Israel” mean now?

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                  10 days ago

                  Who said eliminating Israel required ethnically cleansing Jews? There were jewish people living in Palestine before Israel, there will be Jewish people living in Palestine after Israel.

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          11 days ago

          Who cares about what you think, you’re a genocide denialist. There’s zero point in wasting time talking with pedophiles about the merits of fucking kids.

          Israelis are very welcome to turn themself in to international justice and get trialed for their war crimes.