• JackbyDev@programming.dev
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    2 months ago

    Whenever I see things like this I think the man making the comment really has no idea how much unwanted attention young, single women get from random men. Especially if you’re pretty and nice, men just take that as an invitation. For every genuinely polite person trying to be charming you have dozens of creeps just being weird.

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      2 months ago

      As Chris Rock put it many years ago, “Everywhere they go, there’s men offering them dick.”

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          2 months ago

          because people who use females will say men and females

          Do you ignore all the instances they don’t?

          • OP’s writer wrote women & used females to refer to female people (girls or women).
          • The post I linked to shows another use of noun female.
          • Singles communities, personals, classifieds, marketplaces offer abundant instances.
          • The word appears often in book titles & passages, especially feminist literature.

          Seems your claim requires ignoring much regular English usage: it’s false.

          presumably

          That’s presuming an awful lot contrary to regular usage.

          Regardless of motive, the act is the same: indiscriminately picking problems over females. If everyone did that, females would be generally accepted as a dirty, toxic word. Again: what good does that advance?

          It’s thoughtless, self-destructive language policing.

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              2 months ago

              No, the writer in OP may not have needed to use males (men & boys). Explain the necessity for males.

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                The fact that the use one form for one gender and a different form for another gender is exactly the issue.

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                  What’s the logic there that makes it offensive?

                  The comment mixes women & females so it doesn’t appear fixated on a word offensively.

                  When discussing complete sets, it symmetrically places words of a set together: “men, women” and “married, single”.

                  When not discussing complete sets, only the words needed appear: they write “single young female” without “single young male”, because there was no reason to write the latter—it’s not part of the topic. The shift to females happens in a new sentence.

                  Again: explain the necessity for males. Are you expecting everyone to write males for no reason whenever they write females (or the reverse)? Do we need to do the same with married & single? Are you claiming incomplete sets of words or asymmetry is offensive?

                  That shit would be exhausting. Please explain the issue: otherwise, it looks like you’re simply picking over the noun female.

  • fantoozie@midwest.social
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    2 months ago

    I feel like a lot of the online discourse, and a few isolated in-person interactions, wants to frame this sort of stuff as evidenciary of how miserable and oppressive it is to be men in the modern world.

    I don’t believe it; frankly, I think it’s a ploy to instill division by exploiting young men’s lack of emotional intelligence (not necessarily their fault) but even if it were true, I don’t buy the response being that society has it out to get men and we need to accommodate people who refuse to learn how deal with their own emotions.

    • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 months ago

      We can help men, I’m all for it.

      But I need a good faith effort.

      Women first, and then we help the men if they still want or need help and it isn’t just like “wahhh we’ve lost our unfair systemic advantages”.

      I’d be willing to be that because modern feminism ACTUALLY encompasses actual men’s rights and is basically all egalitarian values, that they will (continue to) never take that offer since that isn’t what the VAST majority even want.

      Prove me wrong.

  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    Women don’t want to be approached ever, but they also never make a move.

    Respectful men will completely stop initiating contact with any women out of fear of being seen as a creep

    This leaves only the arrogant men left who will ignore what they are told and continue to harass women.

    Our society will figure out our dating issues once enough people become desperate enough to lower their standards. As we move twoards a more equal society.

    I don’t think it’s happening soon tho tbh.