• chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    22 hours ago

    NSA spying, Epstein, diamond engagement rings, are some examples of conspiracy theories widely established to be real.

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        18 minutes ago

        As Noam Chomsky used to say, that was basically the only legitimate conspiracy theory out there!

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      6 hours ago

      And yet, pizza gate, school shooting crisis actors, “Bush did 9/11”, fake moon landing, firmament, HAARP weather control, JFK killed by the CIA, et. al (to name a few) are all ephemeral bunk with no conclusive evidence to back them up.

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      20 hours ago

      Yes, and countless crackpots reference Galileo when shouting out their latest thing that scientists don’t want you to know about. The one doesn’t automatically give even the slightest credence to the other.

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        11 hours ago

        Sure, but it works the other way around too; you can’t automatically rule out conspiracy theories as false just because they fall into the category of conspiracy theories. This is itself a plausible conspiracy theory; that the trope of conspiracy theories being associated with crazy idiots, and the prevalence of very stupid conspiracy theories, is supported and encouraged to provide additional cover for the real ones.

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          6 hours ago

          You can until they provide evidence. Because the onus of proof is on the claimant.

          Acquire proof.

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            6 hours ago

            I would argue that even before the point where the conspiracies I mentioned were conclusively proven and accepted as common knowledge, it still made sense to seriously consider the possibility and not dismiss people doing so only because they were engaging in conspiracy theories (which absolutely happened). That mindset just helps them get away with it.