• rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Let’s put a billion birthday balloons worth of MRI gas in a terminally slow aircraft and inexplicably fly it over sports stadiums.

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      Modern airship designs can go hundreds of km per hour.

      With modern technology we also can contain fire into pockets.

      This isn’t much different than criticising a plane because petrol is flammable.

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        And that don’t readily explode when exposed to an ignition source?

        (I actually think hydrogen party balloons would be fun).

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          lol, I worked in one (dangerous) shop where a common prank would be to wait for someone to be in thier hood, upend a large styrofoam coffee cup from the break room on the edge of someone’s bench, fill it with aceteline from a torch and spark it.

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    2 months ago

    they were abandoned because commercial airliners were faster, safer, more durable, and could carry more people.

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      …and they don’t fuck up our limited helium reserves en masse.

      EDIT: they might fuck up other things, but it would be some serious waste, because there are much more important applications to our limited helium.

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      Hard to say that theyre really safer, when the primary safety incident everyone thinks of, occurred during the 1930s, a time whose airplanes certainly wouldnt have been as safe as modern ones either

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        planes are safer because they are less prone to failure and can take more damage (and more significant damage) before falling out of the sky, as well as being able to maneuver on the way down instead of just actually falling.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airship_accidents

    Apart from the 80% of the entries that are basically “Crashed during bad weather” - my personal highlights:

    … breaks loose from its mooring during a storm and is blown over the English Channel; after sightings in Wales and Ireland and a brief touchdown in Belfast, the airship was blown out over the Atlantic Ocean and is never seen again.

    Zeppelin LZ 8 Deutschland II (brand new) is caught by a wind gust while being walked out of its hangar and damaged beyond repair after it smashes on the roof of the hangar.

    … the airship, weighed down with gold and burgundy paint, reached 600 feet altitude before beginning an unplanned right descending turn, making a “controlled descent” into a garbage dump, impaling the blimp on a pine tree, coming down just a quarter-mile from the site of the Hindenburg’s 1937 demise.

    … suffers an intentional mid-air collision with a radio-controlled airplane.

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      the airship was blown out over the Atlantic Ocean and is never seen again.

      Hastily stuffing “Ghost zeppelin” into my horror idea bag

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        Helium has problems of its own, sadly. Besides being a little bit less effective at actually lifting, it’s relatively scarce on Earth and it leaks even faster than hydrogen

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    I don’t understand this meme. Everyone knows that modern airships use helium instead of hydrogen, right?

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      It was my understanding that these vessels were propelled by flatulence.

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    Well, the Nazis were stupid and used hydrogen instead of helium. The Hindenburg, pride of Nazi Germany, was full of rich people when it blew up in New Jersey, so who really cares anyway?

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      It’s also worth noting that it wasn’t the hydrogen that caused the fire. The Hindenburg had an aluminium skin. It began having degradation issues, so they painted it. The paint was iron oxide based. Aluminium and iron oxide are the 2 main ingredients in thermite.

      Analysis of the video shows that it was the skin burning off. It would have gone up almost as badly, even if filled with helium.

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        Not according to myth busters. Although some thermite reactions likely accured the blimp would have gone up without it

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        Thermite is known for being freaking hard to ignite, even torching it is not enough sometimes. So I doubt that had anything to do with the fire.

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      The Nazis had to use hydrogen because that other gas was hoarded as a strategic reserve by another nation.

      But still Nazis. So…

      Anyway big flying things are cool. Still would be.

      its just that planes are faster, cheaper to build, less of a hassle to land and take off…

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      Well they weren’t totally stupid, they couldn’t get helium because the US restricted them from getting it as the largest supplier. The plan was originally to use helium, but they went with the second best option.