Party prepared to risk government shutdown and will not support GOP bill unless cuts to healthcare are reversed
It has been nine brutal months for congressional Democrats.
Relegated by voters to the minority in last year’s election, they have been powerless to stop Republicans from acting on Donald Trump’s demands to fund an immigration crackdown, strip money for foreign aid and public media, and downsize Medicaid, which provides healthcare to poor and disabled Americans.
That is set to change next week. Funding for the government expires on Tuesday, but Democrats have refused the GOP’s demands to support legislation keeping it open unless the majority agrees to reverse the Medicaid cuts, restore funding to public media and extend subsidies for Affordable Care Act (ACA) plans.
I agree with that for the most part. Democrats never solved the inequality, education, and Fox News indoctrination in time. I see no way out of it at this point. That’s on them for focusing on small minority issues instead of policy that helps the majority of voters.
I agree with what I believe to be your meaning. They often would latch onto small or fringe things when education, healthcare, work rights, and such would help so much more. If you look at something like gay marriage its like great and all but there was so many fixes at the state level and such that it did not do much but give a feel good victory. Meanwhile obamacare with the pre existing conditions booted had likely a much more beneficial effect for people who were gay. Gun control is another one. I mean both are things I believe in but education, healthcare, work rights, safety nets in general is what helps the most.
Obamacare: our biggest legislative victory in over 20 years. Results are in it consolidated power in the hands of insurance companies who abused it for profit.
Boy you obviously did not have medical bills before or after. Its requirement on money going to care and limiting profit make a big deal along with the no prexisting conditions and required care. Unfortunately 2017 was about the best we saw of it. It actually was sorta good to get things approved end of year as the insurers had to meet their spend or give it back.
I defaulted on $20,000 worth of medical debt in 2015 and paid it off for like $2,000 to a creditor. My medical debt from pre-Obama care came with me ❤️ my deductible was $13,000 and I never hit it with Obama care. I just paid for the appointments and the additional insurance fee. So yeah, I guess maybe my experience was different than some.
Honestly it sounds mainly that you are salty that obama care did not come earlie. Which I totally get. I would have liked it in the eighties (barring that fact I would prefer a single payer system that went back to like ww2)
We all would prefer a single payer system, we are the largest economy in the world. It makes no sense to not do collective bargaining as the wealthiest health care consumers Lmfaoo.
No I’m only salty because for me: when I hit the market place… it resulted in a scam. $3,500 premium with a $13,000 deductible, or else I paid a $3500 tax penalty to Uncle Sam. It did not result in adequate healthcare for me and actually it became harder to get to the doctor every year after. Less practicing doctors in my region.
Gay marriage was actually a great one for the dems, it was already popular. They didn’t even push it. They waited until it was safe and then moved it through. Took credit for a public change in perspective that they did not participate in. If they cared about education, they could’ve easily restored it after Bush left, but they conveniently let everyone become illiterate. They’ve always just had really poor stances on guns, never the kind of compromising policy that would actually be entertained by anyone.
We all believe in education, workers rights, civil rights, infrastructure: at least for ourselves. The only people that don’t believe in that shit we keep electing to Office. It’s both sides of the party. They both believe in making a lot of money for the people that donate to them and keep them in power.
There are people in office who believe in these things and its the majority of democrats. Its reductionist to just wave that they all don’t care. That being said there are some obvious corporate handouts that go on but many of those came from crises that further came from deregulation.
It’s reductionist to call the government taking your rights away a two party system when one of them is in control and breaking the system. Wake up honey there’s no constitutional law anymore. The democrats are just there to keep you from rioting until 2027. After that it won’t matter.
Democrats don’t stop shit when it comes to rioting anymore than the republicans do. Sounds like you need to wake up. The constitution and the bill of rights are massive compared to the alternative and as much as we all bitch about our system and how good europe/canada/australia may be they all have similar issues and knowledgeable folks over there will point to aspects of our system that they wish they had. I mean we have 27 amendments up from the original 10 which im not sure any other system as as many modification. Granted one is a repeal of another. Like it or not some folks will not do the violence thing regardless. We die all the same so you should at least appreciate that.
Obama care was a personal favorite. It forced me to pay the government $3000 for not having insurance, or paying an insurance company $3000 a year for having worthless insurance I wasn’t going to use. Like we easily could do Medicaid for all and regulate pharmaceutical companies insurance companies. We could open competitive government run options to keep insurance honest and away from Medicare…. We chose like the health care plan that benefited insurers and inspire Luigi
No doubt medicaid for all would be better and even a public option (which the dems pushed for) would be a bit better. Obamacare is better than before it though with pre-existing conditions and everything being denied. Now it has gotten worse but that was because the republicans kicked out the requirement which had a cascading effect on insurers which had a cascading effect on hospitals. I will not say its awesome or what we should have but half a loaf is better than no loaf. Its a good example of incremental change unfortunately its also a good example of a step forward followed by a step back.
Just going to point out that health care quality in my experience has gone down since 1999
Yeah so I mean there is not much to discuss then. My experience has been different. It was definitely for me worse before obamacare partly with pre existing conditions, partly due to preventative care being required to be covered outside of deductible and such, and partly because they did not deny as much (which I took were from the spend requirements on care). Surviving healthcare roulette for so many years in the 80’s made me so happy to have some stability around it. I have to say though defending obamacare is one of those wierd thing. I like it better than nothing but yeah would like to get to civilized single payer system.
It is better than nothing, and it was better planned than implemented. Like all good legislation with good intent it got perverted by corporates trying to save their profits
Let’s look at this democratically, if you are not part of the 50% of this country that is being pushed into poverty, how on earth are you going to protect your assets when it’s 60-70% of this country that’s been pushed out of the middle class? We are at the point of wealth inequality where it makes no sense for the average citizen to keep voting to subsidize billionaires businesses and tax returns. Yet we still get massive turnout for status quo. Watching you assholes vote to transfer my wealth and future to a billionaire every year to protect a suburban lifestyle that is as parasitic to your country and planet as could be imagined. I’m not trying to come to terms with anyone lol I don’t speak for a political ideology I’m just a disgusted American who has been completely disenfranchised from society in the last 30 years. All the ladders pulled up and you think your spot is this society is safe. Yes literally all of you are my enemy. Squandered the education that a great nation gave you and watch as a dictator erases your history and rights lmfaooo. I’m just want to witness the divine retribution for everyone’s folly. We’re past the point of redemption. We’d look better as a radioactive crater than we do right now: and judging by the posture of leadership, I think that one is still on the table. Personally I’d just pray to your god as we set the table for WW3
I don’t know what spot you think I have in society but when it comes to a choice between better or worse I choose better. What specific action did you take that if everyone took would solve all this? I voted for the better choice and I think if everyone had we would not have had reagan and bush jr and trump. We would still have regulation (and not have the economic collapses from deregulation) and 911 would not have happened (clinton/gore were well aware of al kaida as a danger) and we would be working globally on the environment and climate change.