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      Since my mother or sister aren’t sex workers, I guess I’m off the hook, no matter how valuable a skill cross-posting is.

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    Probably the same thing as if I found out she was a waitress.

    I’d ask how she enjoys it and mirror her emotions. If she’s happy, I’m happy. If she hates it, I’ll keep an eye out for other opportunities for her.

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      What if they were selling drugs? What if they were landlords and charged a bit too much? Would you judge then? When will you comment on people’s actions and not just practice fencesitting? Honest question.

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          Themselves is alright? You have to admit that doing sex work at least comparatively increases the risk of psychological damage, right? A little bit like being on deployment, I guess, to give a non-sexual example. What if a friend started doing coke or went hard in their alcoholism?

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              This is most often used against people asking in good faith in my experience than those who just want to troll people. In this case, the sealion is actually being perfectly acceptable, the first person doesn’t get to slander a group of people without defending their slander to said group of people.

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              I identify but I’d like to believe I’m not just ‘barging into people’s homes’ and being disruptive since this is an online discussion space. 😅

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                You were asking a lot of questions in one comment. I think, just based on way too much experience as a shitposter, that you’ll have better luck if you ask one or two, add some filler text to show investment, and then wait for an answer.

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                  My fingers just type almost as fast as the thoughts come by, that’s all. I wasn’t really planning for anything besides giving an honest reply, lol.

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            I mean, you generally are supposed to have control of your own affairs. We make an exception for, like, actual psychosis, but I think choosing sex work is well within the set of decisions a reasonable person could make. Depending on exact details (like gender and orientation) the money can be great, and sex is popular.

            Consuming substances is generally put in the same category; the best you can do with an alcoholic is tell them you’re concerned, maybe as a group, and bugging a smoker at all is considered rude. Certain drugs are illegal as well, but fairly randomly and only for historical reasons.

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              I wasn’t arguing on whether it’s profitable or not (of course it is), many things are profitable and not good for you. But yes, all you can truly do when it comes to these sorts of things is advise people… 😁

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                And I wouldn’t even advise against sex work, honestly. If anything being a camgirl sounds like a relatively low-stress job.

                Your username makes me suspicious the mental health impact isn’t actually your problem with it. And that maybe you don’t want people to make be able to make choices for themselves, or at least those people.

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                  Of course I don’t want them to do that job (prostitution, but I’m also against cam work, which is definitely different in their psychological impact). And if you’re entirely aware and mentally stable and out of greed you open your legs and contribute to a society that commodifies everything including what should be an almost sacred union between two loving people, turning it into something bestial and transactional, then I judge that part of you negatively and I think for the sake of everyone you should stop. Certainly.

                  But I’ve lived and interacted enough with Roxannes to know they simply aren’t okay and often started super young and can’t even function in society anymore. Not everyone is part of the Kardashian/Jenner family, for example.

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        They aren’t fence sitting at all. They made their choice to not judge someone for doing sex work. Why does that upset you so much?

        Maybe they would judge someone for the other things, but that hadn’t been asked yet.

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          Everything with a moral component can be judged. You can judge it entirely positively. That person decided not to comment (on anything, actually, because “it’s not his life”, as if that meant anything besides the obvious truth that everyone has their own lives, lol), I feel like my reply follows!

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            Does being a janitor have a moral component? Must we decide whether or not to celebrate or condemn janitors, or would it be acceptable to just consider it a job?

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              Of course it does. Things are dirty and people need to clean them, people like clean spaces invariably, wouldn’t we both say it’s a net positive for society? The worst of janitors is the one keeping things tidy in the CIA offices for instance, letting these monsters cook their next psy-op, lol, but even then their impact is negligible in the success of the war machine. When it comes to themselves, as long as they’re protected from dangerous materials, they should be fine physically. Is it harmful for their psyche to clean? Maybe without good music 🤷 but not as much as opening your legs to random men who use you basically as a disposable masturbatory aid several times a day. Breaking the link between love, commitment and sex is not just a big taboo, but it’s (more importantly) psychologically damaging, and whatever ideology you have to create to stomach it (plus whatever bad habits regarding substances you might have developed trying to cope with it all) will have to be disposed of before developing an actual connection with another human being/re-entering society. You can’t get there just by sweeping floors, and to even mention otherwise is either foolish or a statement made in bad faith, but I entertained it because it could be the former.

              Listen, besides the fact that it’s just ‘socially transgressive’, the biggest sin behind prostitution is the sin of self-harm. That’s all. Morally, if we’re discussing the global ramifications of ones actions, it’s way better to be a prostitute with 50 clients a day for years (as long as you’re clean, ofc) than an IDF soldier for one day, or even an investment banker. But to say self-harm is okay because “their body, their rules” and it makes them money is a product of moral relativity and ideological confusion.

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                You need to balance the harm caused by allowing people to engage in self-harm with the harm imposed by removing someone’s freedom of choice. If God Himself thought it was important for us to have free will, what right do you or I have to remove it?

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                  I could never, as in I certainly don’t have any capacity to do so. Expressing my opinion publicly is not a restraint on your will, lol. Maybe if I came to your house and kidnapped you but not just me yapping online!

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                Ok. I’ve found the problem here. You have an opinion on the topic, but you think that you have facts. So you’re convinced that people with a different opinion are wrong.

                Hope that helps.

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    Sister - K.

    Mother - Shocked, she’s probably ace. And, y’know, it’s probably not a huge earner at her age.