• pdxfed@lemmy.world
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        7 days ago

        Poors will be priced out by insurance companies. A large auto manufacturer, probably Tesla will buy one of the enormous insurers and start by offering lower rates for self-driving. Many will sign up and the standard startup playbook will follow. Personal vehicles will become luxury items and then you will be required to subscribe.

        I wonder what the poor right will say when they don’t own their car anymore?maybe they will have f350 self-driving trucks too and it’ll be ok.

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          I’m hesitant to call what they are doing owning anyway, re: their trucks. Most people who drive those idiotic money pits are so far underwater on their loans I only have pity for them. I know people who have taken out 8 year loans on 70-80 thousand dollar trucks. Loans so high in interest and so long that they probably will never pay it off - to me the bank owns it 100%. I think most of them will gladly hand over their ownership if they can still feel “manly” by pretending their huge truck makes up for their own masculinity issues.

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            It’s insane how much trucks have skyrocketed in price! My wife’s job occasionally needs a truck so we had considered one as our second vehicle years ago and ended up figuring it was cheaper to own a car counting total cost of ownership unless we used the bed/hitch more than 3 times a week and that was at 40-50k… it’s like they’re allergic to money.

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              That’s my big thing. They always claim they need a truck to do truck things, but the vast amount of truck beds I see are empty. I don’t own a truck, but still need to do truck things sometimes. When I do I pay around 40 bucks to rent one for the day, do all my truck things, then return it. Idk, maybe I’m crazy but I’ve spent maybe a few hundred doing that, that seems like a better deal than 80k

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                Exactly! When we gamed out the cost, it was almost double for the loan. Oil changes cost double (there’s your $40 every 3-6months), and the parts were vastly more expensive. So we only pulled even renting a truck a 3x a week. At 80k I’d need to be pulling something daily more than 10 miles 7 days a week to beat the cost of renting a vehicle.

                Nevermind there’s basically nothing I can buy that can’t be delivered from say Home Depot without me needing a truck.

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                  6 days ago

                  Same, same. Even with high delivery fees it’s still worth just paying them vs buying a truck. Unless you need lumber delivered daily, then it doesn’t matter.

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                I’ll counter argue! Felt the same about these monster Barbie trucks here in the South. Working Lowe’s for a few months changed my mind a bit.

                Guys would pull in with these monsters hauling a trailer. And we would load hella rocks and boards. Laughed with the customer and lumber guy one night, “You gonna need to come back for the rest tomorrow!”

                But still, I get it. My wife’s Outback has a trailer hitch and I’m not afraid of pulling on it. Towed my boat home with a Mitsubishi Eclipse. Used to ride with the top down and a load of lumber in the back!

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                I off-road camp do bees hunt and I’m only me why would I want a second vehicle. The stuff I do can be messy and hard to clean especially the bees. Are you going to see my box empty probably doesn’t mean it isn’t used and also doesn’t mean I don’t use my truck for other things. A car can’t do.

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                  6 days ago

                  Okay, still as other people said, unless you literally carry things 4+ times a day financially it doesn’t make sense to buy a new truck, so that hasn’t changed.