• WalnutLum@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    In Japan the fault for accidents is always assumed to be the larger vehicle. If a truck hits a car it’s on the onus of the truck driver to prove he wasn’t doing anything wrong, and if a car hits a cyclist, the car driver has to prove their innocence etc.

    I think to most Americans that seems appalling (what if the stupid cyclist was doing something reckless?! Etc.), but it definitely makes people in Japan drive much safer in areas where there are potential cyclists, and thus makes it safer to cycle places easily.

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      5 days ago

      It’s the same in the Netherlands. The most vulnerable traffic participant is always protected. Bicycle gets hit by a car? Cars fault. Pedestrian gets hit by a bicycle? Cyclists fault. And so on.

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      Some of those citations are cyclists on sidewalks endangering pedestrians…

      Others is cyclists running red lights.

      So, cyclists hitting a pedestrian, I feel like we’d agree who’s at fault.

      But say a cyclists runs a red light and tbones a SUV, you’re saying the SUV is at fault?

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        They’re saying it’s on the SUV driver to prove they didn’t do illegal things that resulted in the accident, assuming normal police requests don’t do it first (security camera footage of the intersection) because nobody knows for sure who ran a red light except the people involved, unless there’s proof.

        Not “someone said the SUV ran a red light and everyone believed them instantly without proof and the SUV was found at fault”

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      5 days ago

      It feels a lot safer to be a pedestrian in Japan. I never saw a driver take precedence for themselves.

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        The general traffic rule is that unless indicated otherwise, roads are primarily for pedestrians and cyclists, so you’re the one borrowing their roads, not the other way around.