• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Dude was wearing a 20lb chain while his wife was getting an MRI.

    She freaked, and yelled for him, and he ran into the room while the machine was still on and fucking died.

    This is 100% their fault, I could almost see an argument that the door needs a lock to prevent idiots with 20l s of metal around their neck from running in, but you don’t want to lock everyone out in case there’s an issue.

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        21 hours ago

        this seems like the obvious solution to me and it’s kinda wacky that it’s not already standard, just have a loud as fuck alarm go off if metal goes through the first door leading to the general scanner area.

        just gotta have enough distance between the detector and the scanner, so there’s time for people to intervene.

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      11 days ago

      That door should absolutely be locked while in operation. That door being forced open should be an e-stop event.

      Someone could walk in there with a firearm or a bowey knife or anything.

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        10 days ago

        Then the door will always be locked, unless the MRI is being serviced, as the magnet is always active. Kinda kills the point of the machine, no? That said they could put in more safeguards for sure. Though you would think all the signs on and near the door, and the extensive explanation you get, would be enough. But here we are.

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          10 days ago

          No, signs aren’t enough obviously. This is definitely not the first time we’ve heard of stories of people coming in with guns, chairs what have you.

          It’s not everyday, so maybe it’s not warranted… But if you look at the things we apply security to we secure against a lot of things that never happen

          Given the apparent danger of the device. There’s still plenty of options for security.

          How about a set of man trap doors and a metal detector. The outside pair is unlocked. When you step through the metal detector, If a safe amount of metal is detected the outside door is locked and the inside doors unlock.

          You don’t need a very sensitive metal detector The extra construction around two doors, and a small door controller / locks would be super insignificant to the price of the machine.

          If you use cam locks the emergency egress would still be fine. Maybe you’d need to sense the outer door being shut to make sure somebody doesn’t hold the door for someone else.

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      12 days ago

      You could put an airlock like metal detector door that only opens the second door, if the first door is closed and there’s nothing magnetic inside. People could still go in quickly in emergencies, but nothing that makes it worse can enter.

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        12 days ago

        As much as the machines cost, something like that wired up with a metal detector so that if the machine is on and there’s metal in the airlock it will never open would actually be a good solution…

        But it would take a society that values human life and absence of suffering over money. Because like someone else pointed out, the hospital ain’t the one paying to fix the machine.

        Maybe Canada would be interested?

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        12 days ago

        You could spend billions to implement crazy solutions for every possible scenario.

        Or you could just tell the guy not to go in there.

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          12 days ago

          That would not cost billions. Not even close. It would certainly be far cheaper than the cost of repair.

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            12 days ago

            Did you forget that thousands of hospitals exist just in the US? Or at least did before 2025.

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              12 days ago

              Not all of them have MRI machines, and regardless of its cheaper than repairing them.

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                12 days ago

                Hundreds probably do though. I don’t know. I’ve never heard of anything like this happening. I think it’s probably exceedingly rare. I had an MRI and the number of times I heard and read the warnings about metal was exhausting. It feels almost impossible that someone could not know about that specific danger.