People in a field shoot without reguard to what’s in the direction of the bullets they are firing. Kids flee, a coach is shot and someone thought they should blame the baseball field builders lol. Mate if you fire a gun and there is any reasonable belief that bullet can strike something other than your target, you should be charged with shooting at that object.
To me that means attempting to kill that coach/kids.
Really? That’s how you choose to debate? By inventing unrealistic scenarios that have likely never occured, or ever will occur? Wouldn’t an indoor firing range have regulations and code requirements that would keep a bullet from going through a wall and hitting someone outside?
That’s like wondering if the rule would apply if an alien spaceship fired a space laser, and deflected the bullet to hit someone, would the shooter still be responsible?
No, Skippy, in that case, probably not. You got me there, I guess you win the entire argument that ALL gun users are taught they they are 100% responsible for the path of their bullet.
1oo% true. and yet… who would build a a base ball park right next to a gun range?! not saying they are at fault, but like …really? there must be something i don’t know, like was it an indoor range?
i mean ok, i get it. but OOF. i see also that the shooting wasn’t even at the gun range. still seems like a weird place to constantly hear gun fire during your kids little league game
Americans continuing to blame the kids who are being shot at, or absolutely anyone who had anything to do with it EXCEPT the gun nuts, tick, I had that on my bingo card for this thread.
People in a field shoot without reguard to what’s in the direction of the bullets they are firing. Kids flee, a coach is shot and someone thought they should blame the baseball field builders lol. Mate if you fire a gun and there is any reasonable belief that bullet can strike something other than your target, you should be charged with shooting at that object.
To me that means attempting to kill that coach/kids.
If you fire a gun, you are 100% responsible for the bullet, full stop.
Especially if the bullet doesn’t full stop into the target or a barrier behind it.
@LyD@lemmy.ca points out that the barrier had nothing to do with it.
What if you’re at a paid indoor range and your bullet goes through the back stop wall because the range cheaped out?
If you’re moving the goalposts there, just move the lawsuit right over to the range.
The difference is whether the shooter paid sufficient care and those are clear opposites
Moving a goalpost? Triumph said 100% of the time the guy that shot the bullet is responsible for it. I was just pointing out how silly that could be.
Really? That’s how you choose to debate? By inventing unrealistic scenarios that have likely never occured, or ever will occur? Wouldn’t an indoor firing range have regulations and code requirements that would keep a bullet from going through a wall and hitting someone outside?
That’s like wondering if the rule would apply if an alien spaceship fired a space laser, and deflected the bullet to hit someone, would the shooter still be responsible?
No, Skippy, in that case, probably not. You got me there, I guess you win the entire argument that ALL gun users are taught they they are 100% responsible for the path of their bullet.
I said 100% and I meant 100%.
It’s literally the (tort) law. I don’t think the armchair lawyers here understand anything
If you’re defending\agreeing with Triumph, I don’t think you understand tort law.
Literally just had a case in my Tort Law class about this very thing. I think you don’t know anything at all.
I know in my scenario under tort, the gun range or someone further down in the construction of the range would be found liable, and not the shooter.
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A question was asked. I answered it. Please indicate where I was “unwilling[] to reason”.
… The part where a shooter is always 100% responsible for the bullet.
That’s because that’s true.
1oo% true. and yet… who would build a a base ball park right next to a gun range?! not saying they are at fault, but like …really? there must be something i don’t know, like was it an indoor range?
The outdoor range points away from the baseball field.
i mean ok, i get it. but OOF. i see also that the shooting wasn’t even at the gun range. still seems like a weird place to constantly hear gun fire during your kids little league game
Far west of Houston? All those kids are used to guns already.
Americans continuing to blame the kids who are being shot at, or absolutely anyone who had anything to do with it EXCEPT the gun nuts, tick, I had that on my bingo card for this thread.
Which one was built first?
Sounds like they are getting charged