Party prepared to risk government shutdown and will not support GOP bill unless cuts to healthcare are reversed

It has been nine brutal months for congressional Democrats.

Relegated by voters to the minority in last year’s election, they have been powerless to stop Republicans from acting on Donald Trump’s demands to fund an immigration crackdown, strip money for foreign aid and public media, and downsize Medicaid, which provides healthcare to poor and disabled Americans.

That is set to change next week. Funding for the government expires on Tuesday, but Democrats have refused the GOP’s demands to support legislation keeping it open unless the majority agrees to reverse the Medicaid cuts, restore funding to public media and extend subsidies for Affordable Care Act (ACA) plans.

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    improvements happen but its been two steps back and one forward since reagan and more more like 3 since bush jr and now we seem to be taking a dozen back.

    Then incrementalism has either failed or has succeeded in making things worse.

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        You support an ideology that has failed. Spectacularly. If you support incrementalism knowing how useless it is, it’s because you like how useless it is.

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          Except it has. Incrementally. We still have the affordable care act, we still have a bevy of rights (for now). It could be better but its better than worse. Worse is strangely, worse than better. I have yet to see any alternative do anything effective. Maybe if it does someday it will mean something but for now its just folks blowing hot air.

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            I have yet to see any alternative do anything effective.

            Incrementalists make sure that can’t happen.

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              LOL. The lets trade better for worse crowd keeps better things from happening. The alternative have yet to do anything except complain online how if they existed they would do better. There is no try. DO!

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                The lets trade better for worse crowd keeps better things from happening.

                Incrementalists killed the minimum wage increase for you. Incrementalists killed almost all the tangible individual benefits in Build Back Better for you. Incrementalists had it in their power to implement a public option and chose to let people go bankrupt and die for you. Incrementalists love to claim that gay marriage was theirs, but if the courts hadn’t stepped in we’d still be talking about civil unions. Incrementalists love almost nothing more than a false maximum they can claim is the pinnacle.

                The only times I’ve seen incrementalists take decisive action is to block progress and, of course, to sell weapons to their favorite person for their favorite activity.

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                  This just ingnores the reality. These were compromises. Yeah that dirty word. You are comparing less good outcome with the alternative which is no wage increases instead of some and no build back better and no obamacare. The problem in all these cases is the republicans. You have to eliminate the worst crap all over you before you can even start getting really clean. If you try rubbing sanitizer on yourself without the soap you will not get rid of the crap and will end up less clean than just the soap.

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                    You are comparing less good outcome with the alternative which is no wage increases

                    You are playing “got mine and fuck you forever” to everyone who didn’t get the wage increase that only federal workers got because as long as ONE person gets something, incrementalists act like it’s solved forever for everyone.

                    You have to eliminate the worst crap all over you before you can even start getting really clean.

                    You have to get out of the sewer first. Incrementalists treat a decrease in the rate at which the sewage as rising as a permanent solution. Those of us up to our armpits in the shit they refuse to do anything about, no matter how many times we give their worthless complicit asses majorities aren’t going to accept “look at those people over there whose lives we made better. Your problems are all solved now shut up” with the same level of satisfaction as the person who says it.