• notsure@fedia.io
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    7 days ago

    …so when we ‘hire’ politicians, they are supposed to work in our best inerest, only a few representatives seem to do this and they are all Democrats…

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      they are all Democrats…

      More accurately, Social Democrats and other progressives. Establishment Democrats are corporate-owned bootlickers that act against their constituents’ interests in favor of their donors, much like Republicans but without the blatant -isms and -phobias.

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        Social democrats isn’t a party (at least, not one they’re members of). It’s an idiology. They are elected as members of the Democratic party. You’re right, but I’m just pointing out that they are Democrats, along with being social democrats (no capital letters), progressives, or whatever else.

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        …i agree whole-heartedly…the people who should be in charge don’t want to be and the people who want to be in charge shouldn’t…

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          the people who should be in charge don’t want to be

          What? That is utter nonsense.

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            It’s not. Power attracts people who want to abuse it. The people most suited for being an actual good leader, aren’t seeking it out.

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              I think that’s overly simplistic. Power does attract people who want to abuse it, but it also attracts people who want to change their world for the better.

              The latter group view power more as a weighty responsibility than a privilege, but the power still exists.

              Although that latter group is also more likely to spread their power around, thus reducing the opportunities for abuse by the former group, and… I kind of see your point. But I view it a bit more systemically.

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                Many politicians have stated that they got into the game to make a difference but all the back room deals, concessions and quid pro quo needed to get into a position of power meant they had their hands tied once they were in power.

                I think a lot of the people who want to make a difference look at the quagmire that is modern politics and decide they can do more from elsewhere in the community. People who are willing to wade into that tar pit and aren’t interested in the power or the extra money that can be made on the side are few and far between.

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                  I’ve heard much the same thing from the world of biz. People think the CEO is the ultimate dictator in the corpo world, but you don’t get to that position without being useful to the upper classes and financial automations. The moment you start going out of sync with those forces is the moment you will feel you “power” rapidly decreasing.

                  It’s only the power to enunciate the will of capital. Never to act against it.

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                    Well it’s very clear in the business world. the CEO (Chief Executive Officer) is there to execute the will of the board of directors and to a lesser extent, the shareholders.

                    To be a Chief Executive Officer you must have an executive staff (Chief Operating Officer, Chief Financial Officer, Chief Marketing Officer, etc)

                    Many people in small business like to call themselves a ceo when in reality they are the director of the company. A director can do wherever they want.

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              No.

              There are countless people worthy of such positions and they fight every day to get in.

              To say they don’t want to is to frame it as the left is lazy, when the reality is that the leftists are fucked over by the capitalists.

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        7 days ago

        Every Dem candidate is pretty close to Jimmy Carter on the issues.

        The GOP keeps moving further to the Right.

        Letting the GOP win anything doesn’t do anyone any good, ever.

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      Democrats on the left of their party.

      Quick recap of the political landscape for the past few decades

      • The right will make the world worse for everyone except about 100 people
      • The center will try to keep it the same, and often make it worse in general as the status quo has been built by the right
      • The left will actually try to make it better, but sometimes fail

      This has always been the choice since Thatcher/Reagan and the right had their last ever economic idea in neoliberalism.

      A few more decades of majority centre/right wing rule and 99.99% of us will have nothing and that 100 will have it all. They know this and that’s why they fund racists to paint an alternative reason everything is going to shit. They can happily carry on with their accumulation of everything and hopefully enough people won’t realise before it’s too late to do anything.

      The few left wing voices you can hear are your only voices that have managed to resist being bought.

      (Oh important reminder, don’t let a politician tell you what their political alignment is, look at how they vote and behave. The further right you go the more often you’ll get an untrue response to the question)

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        The right will make the world worse for everyone except about 100 people

        I mean, your eventuality of about 100 people owning it all is correct, but for now there’s at least a few thousand that the right is making money for.