This is becoming more common in my town. I just either feel like an ass saying I dont have cash, or lying, but I also can’t be giving out 20’s to everyone who asks.
I feel bad for most of them but at the same time I get anxiety walking down the sidewalk and seeing someone up ahead that I know is going to ask me for money. Its not like you can say “oh no, I donate to services that help the needy” because that person isn’t necessarily being helped by that. And ignoring completely feels so mean, plus I tried that one time and the person was screaming at me as i walked away that I ignored them.
I also dont want my city to round them up and send them to prison camps, something they are planning and that I know a lot of people would vote for just to “get rid of them” but im not supporting that at all.
Its tough.
Absolutely ignore them. I will forever vote and say we need to house them and feed them, idgaf. But give them handouts from my poor ass, directly? Hellll no. Negative reinforcement through omission. Begging is not the way. I would rather them rob places and start murdering politicians. This is an entire society problem, not a me problem.
And before anybody calls me selfish, no - it’s an issue of ability over scale. I can kill myself to absolutely help and try to fix one person, but it would cost me so, so much. And just like in a zombie game, if there’s only one zombie, you can melee or whatever. But if there’s a horde, you fix that shit with bigger guns or bring the crew.
What that means is, I’m not rich enough to fight zombies, so I’m walking away. And homeless people can ask me all they want, and I absolutely hold the social right to ignore them like any other person out there begging me to donate to their patreon or watch their ads or whatever they need in society to survive.
Fix the fucking system. Sorry, not sorry, but, capitalism, as it is right now, is not the way.
Just shake your head no and keep walking. Anyone asking for change in the street is used to rejection
A simple “no thank you” works for me if I feel that I need to say anything.
Someone isn’t entitled to your money. Just say no and move on. Don’t specify. They aren’t entitled to know if you have money on your person. They aren’t entitled to know if you can or can’t spare it. One word no. No and move on with your day. No isn’t sending them to prison camps. No isn’t voting against benefits that ensure people at least get fed if not sheltered. Say no even if you DO donate to charities that help people. 50 50 that person is living off begging until he’s got enough to buy the next hit or the next bottle.
I usual walk around with some small cash, change, etc, and definitely give it out as I’m walking until I’m out.
I just keep a mental note of it and skip the next coffee or odd lunch date, so my budget evens ~ out.
Ignore and donate to a local shelter and/or kitchen. Do not encourage street harassment. I know it sucks and I know a lot of people are hurting. But community aid should not be divided based on who is the loudest, most aggressive, or most “convincingly in need” based on appearance. (If someone is hungry or thirsty by all means hook up the people in need in your community, never hurts to share food and water)
Or who can fight for that begging spot
Not to mention professional beggars that are hired from a company (black market) and don’t need the money. They are often more effective than the people that really need the money since are more relaxed about it.
In the northeastern U.S. I’ve mostly learned to acknowledge them, don’t give anything, and move on with my life.
Not sure if it’s bad luck or what, but nearly every time I’ve tried to be nice and offer them something it always backfires. I’ll be passing by with some food and they’ll ask me for some, I give them some and then they tell me it wasn’t enough and to give them all the food I was carrying. Like WTF?
Another time I actually had some change on me so I gave him some and he said it wasn’t enough money and started following me, wanted me to go to an ATM so I can take out more money for him. I was forced to tell him to stop following me or I’d have to call the cops.
I have even more stories like that… going through those motions repeatedly it feels like the homeless have taught me not to give to the homeless. But hopefully your experiences have better outcomes.
I was drunk and in a good mood and a guy asked for $10 to take the bus or something, so I handed him a $20 and said I hope he had a nice evening. Should have been the end of it, right? Nope. “Oh man, if you have $20 more the Lord will bless you and I can get a bus pass and eat. My sister is dying and I need to visit her often and I’m on the streets right now.” Stuff like that for like 3 blocks of following me.
Bro… I. Don’t. Believe. You. Like, literally, it’s probably all bullshit and I knew the first $20 was going to buy booze or drugs. Don’t fucking try to shake me down for more.
Dude, same happened to me. One guy threw the box of food he asked me to give him in a bush because he didn’t like Italian. Another told me to go to an atm for him. The last time I gave someone money they had me absolutely convinced that they needed $10 for the bus ride home. Before I even put my wallet away he was saying the same thing to the next guy.
Decided to stop that and donate to charity instead, even though money was tight. After my $20 donation they flooded my mailbox asking for more donations. They even sent me $5 with the message “This $5 could save a life!” So sick of being made into a fool for wanting to help.
If I were convinced a person truly needed help I could provide, I would straight up be willing to give them at least $1000. I simply don’t trust the pleas any more. Have to keep it limited to chance encounters with everyday people.
I’m in the northeast, I nod, apologize for having no cash and ignore them past that. I donate to the local food pantry, I know they’re gonna buy drugs or alcohol with any money I give them face to face. I dated a girl that was homeless in NYC for a year, she spent every dollar she got on heroin. She knew where to get free food and clothes. She made about 50 to 100 dollars a day panhandling.
I wonder if the people saying they give money every time live in major cities (and walk often).
If I gave a quarter to everyone who asked me for change, I’d be out over $200 per year. Double that if they’re still going to ask me on my way back (which is likely).
Some of them would also be rolling their eyes at a quarter. Some panhandlers can even become aggressive if they don’t like what they get.
I’m not going to say that these people are going to waste the money on drugs, though some will (and I don’t care what they do with the money, really). But I’d rather…
- Donate that money to food banks and other causes
- Not carry around unnecessary change
- Not risk pulling out my wallet in the city (in case I forget to keep the change handy)
- And NOT turn city sidewalks into tolled walkways for people who can’t afford a car
As for what I do? I do the hand thing and apologize. I make eye contact (or at least look their way). If they ask again, I tell them I don’t have anything. There’s no reason to feel shame for not giving. Like someone else said, it’s a numbers game.
If there are regulars and people who are genuinely down on their luck, then (if you have the time and willingness), you could talk to them, and maybe offer to buy them food or something.
Of course, there’s always the chance that they’ll bring the food back and ask for a refund. But hey, they would’ve used your $20 the same way.
I wonder if the people saying they give money every time live in major cities (and walk often).
Honestly there’s panhandlers then there’s homeless. I get asked for money surprisingly few amounts of times from homeless and I usually throw them $5-10 every time if I have cash.
Frequent panhandlers I will never give money to. If you’re around the area a lot it’s pretty easy to know the difference.
That’s a great point. There are also a lot of career panhandlers where I live. Like, “getting picked up in fancy SUVs” career panhandlers.
I hope they’re just scam artists and not victims of human trafficking.
Which raises another point – sometimes giving money to people in the streets is supporting human trafficking.
You have to really know who your money is going to. And 9 times out of 10, I’d wager the money is better off being donated to services that support people in need than it is going into a takeout coffee cup at the end of a stretched out arm.
But food is still probably a great help no matter what, even if it is for a victim of human trafficking. Everyone needs to eat.
Yeah. Unfortunately it feels like the homeless situation further encourages mass car culture because youre a lot safer in there than walking at night especially if youre small or a woman.
Plus there’s the problem of literally giving them a quarter. I used to empty my pockets out for the first person I saw on my way out of work. But too often they would just throw change on the ground and get mad.
I get that they hoped for more but it is something and is what I hsd
Especially in Canada. A quarter can’t get you much of anything. You’d need 5 of them to get yourself the cheapest coffee. Probably more than one for a single piece of fruit, even.
I live in Los Angeles, I see homeless people regularly and give regularly. When I don’t have much money I don’t give much, when I have more I give more. I actually specifically got the ATM and make sure to carry $5 and $20 bills specifically for this. I am lucky enough that I can afford to give what I do but I regularly give people$20.
When I was driving through an area frequently that had a large amount of homeless I’d pack a few extra sandwiches, granola bars and bottles of water to give out. I also kept gallon bags and a large bag of dog food for those who had dogs. I never once had someone turn down food and ask for money instead.
Guess it depends on your city. In my city I have literally seen a homeless person throw food back at the person who gave it to them and scream “I ASKED FOR A DOLLAR, BITCH!”
Yeah you gotta mostly ignore the homeless where I’m at. Heavy meth, fentanyl area. Street violence is not uncommon. Just keep it moving and don’t loiter too long if you know what’s good lol
same here,
You sure this isn’t a scene in scary movie?
LMAO it literally is
Word for word lol
Probably is, but it also happened in my city. My city’s gone to meth in a real bad way.
Fair enough
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I’ve seen that show so many times but I can’t seem to recall that scene
I’ve seen people get angry when instead of giving money they offered to buy food.
Called the bluff about needing the money to eat, I guess.
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If possible, do not give food unless it is sealed. I prefer to give out canned food with a pull tab or sealed items like protein bars and granola bars. Many unhoused people throw away open items like sandwiches given to them by random people for their own safety, and I can’t blame them
Protein is always a good choice because that’s what you get the least in shelters and it’s also the most important (aside from water of course).
Take it easy, Jesus! 😁
“I’m, uh, gluten intolerant. And I don’t eat processed foods.”
Literally not even once. But keep strawmanning the homeless to make yourself feel better
Uh…I was just playing off of your last sentence, where you brought up the idea that someone could turn down food. I was imagining a scenario where someone would do that.
You can get down off your high horse if you’d like.
I had a homeless guy come up and give me a whole story about how he almost died of low blood sugar that morning. I’m a caregiver for a diabetic person, so I gave him a whole sealed package of emergency glucose tabs.
He looked it over and gave it back, said the only thing that helped his blood sugar was a certain flavor of Rockstar energy drink. He gave me a list and asked me to go buy things. It was in a Safeway parking lot, so tried to get what he asked.
They didn’t have his flavor of rockstars and they didn’t have organic raspberries, so I got conventional and a different flavor. He gave them back to me. I asked if he could give them away himself, he said it would be too much hassle.
He still asks me for stuff when I go to that Safeway, it’s his hang out. The first time after that I said “no, you were kind of a dick last time.” Now I just ignore him. I feel bad.
But, I have a hard rule for myself that if I’m going into a restaurant and someone asks me to get them some food, I get it for them. It’s often hard for them to even tell me what they want beyond “Just anything!”
I say “sorry not today” or something similar but also offer food if I have it. I’ve usually got a Clif bar or something. Also nice to have emergency blankets for winter hand outs.
Edit: just remember they are people too. Regardless of their current situation. Some might have mental health issues, others maybe substance abuse problems, some might just be down on their luck and unable to find work. Treat them with the respect you would want if you were in their shoes.
This sounds closest. Acknowledge. Be friendly. Offer food water. Make eye contact, however fleeting. Assess crisis. Keep moving. This is Manhattan and depending on the neighborhood and street they might be the umpteenth to ask. They know this. I still acknowledge and make eye contact because suddenly being invisible is the worst part psychologically.
Bonus: if it’s your neighborhood, odds are you will see these people again. You might want to learn their names. They won’t keep asking you if they recognize you and know you don’t have it.
My wife & I were going into a restaurant one afternoon, and there was a man in a wheelchair with no legs below the knee sitting next door at the exit to Walmart. His sign said that he was a homeless vet. As we started in, I told my wife to hold on, and I ran over and gave him $20. When I got back, my wife said, “Did you just give that guy 20 bucks?” I said, “Yep, why?” She said, “You know he’s just going to spend it on alcohol.” I said, “I hope so, the guy ain’t got no legs, let him have a good drink!”
I heard that story once on reddit tho. Are you just saying a story, or was it you?
That was probably me on Reddit. I’ve probably posted it there on a similar post.
Sounds like exactly what a bot would say! Now prove your humanity by clicking all of the traffic lights in this image…err that one doesn’t work? Uh…You shall prove your humanity by listening to this audio clip and transcribing…that one too huh? Now you shall…count the Rs is Strawberry? Really? Man this is a really dumb future we’ve found ourselves in
If I don’t want to give them money, I just say “sorry I don’t have any cash.” Easy Peasy.
I just say “sorry”. I mean, inventing reasons don’t do any of us any favors. They know I will not give anything after I say sorry. Does it matter to them, why?
I legitimately don’t carry cash anyway tbh. I absolutely hate cash.
Easy peasy until one pulls out a tap to pay terminal. I’ve seen it once, crazy world.
I didn’t have cash and a guy asked if I could cash app him instead lol
lol if that happened (hasn’t in my life yet so far) I’d just be like dude I don’t have any money, sorry.
Hustle gotta hustle
Good point. While I never had that happen …. Last winter I used it as an excuse not to hire some teens who were shoveling driveways. But they had Venmo. Dammit
I wasn’t even that unwilling: it’s mostlyvthey were too late. I was already out there and had already shoveled enough snow to get my snowblower out
I don’t usually give out money and if I saw that after saying the standard “sorry I don’t have any cash” I would immediately nope the fuck out. I do get it and it makes sense for them to have but it gives me an icky feeling to actually hear about it.
Homeless people endure constant hardship, abuse and dehumanising behaviour. I might not give money, but I’m careful to avoid dehumanising them.
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You can carry around smaller denominations if you do want to give something.
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If they’re close to a convenience store then I offer to go in and buy something for them (tell them a budget and ask about and preferences or restrictions).
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If I’m not going to give anything, I still make eye contact, try to have a sympathetic smile on my face and say something like “I’m sorry, do take care”. I don’t know if this is dumb or patronising, but I’m trying to avoid being dehumanising as the constant response they get is for people to avoid eye contact, walk around with a wide gap or ignore completely. I want to try to at least acknowledge and respond.
Right, I feel like a total ass ignoring them because its just mean. But I also feel like if youre too friendly they think you’re an easy person to rob as well…and im not a scary looking person. If i was it would help
Homeless people are much more likey to be victims of violence than they are to perpetrate it.
Homeless people are regular people, like you, who sleep on the street. Would YOU rob someone who is being nice to you?
Dorn dehumanize people just because they don’t look, talk or smell like you. They have feelings and a working brain, just like you.
Interestingly the only time I had a homeless guy threatening me he was actually interested in my dog and he may not have actually been intentionally threatening.
When he asked to pet my dog, I said ok but to take it slow and easy because she was a rescue that didn’t trust people. He proceeded to spent like ten minutes saying he wasn’t worried because he had a knife.
I probably should have taken it much more seriously but this was a festival with people and police all over …… and my dog is pretty good at scaring people
I personally consider the risk of being robbed to be very very low in my city/country. And if it’s the kind of person who would rob you, then I don’t think that will change on the basis of how you respond.
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My standard is to say something like “I don’t have any cash to share, good luck to you though.” I work in homeless services and know a ton of folks who survive on panhandling. In my area, people have no problem finding food, there are a ton of social service orgs and churches that provide food daily.
The following is not a judgment and is a generalization that is far from universal. This is just a description of what I commonly observe. The unfortunate reality is that much of the money people get from panhandling goes to purchasing cigarettes, alcohol, meth, K2, crack, and/or fentanyl. For this reason I avoid giving people money directly.
You don’t need to explain yourself to anyone, and if you feel bad for not giving someone money because you feel the inequality, consider donating your time or money to organizations in your area that are doing the work to help people gain employment or housing, meet their basic needs, or treat their physical or mental health needs.
I ask them to come inside the store and I’ll buy them some food.
If they decline, oh well. If they agree, I happily pay for some food for them.
Some of these encounters have broke my heart, others have just reiterated what most people assume when it comes to these things.
I just apologize and move on, never had a bad experience. I do feel bad afterwards, but I’m from LATAM and it’s basically a 50/50 wether you get ripped off or not, so I’m not risking it.
