Random Rant: I feel like reddit died after they banned all the “unmoderated” communities. All the posts became sanitized. Now reddit is adding AI and streaks and NFTs to keep people on a platform that has no more content.
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Man, Lemmy on Reddit is like having to listen to someone who constantly brings up their ex in conversation whilst constantly telling you how little they care.
“Wow, my ex was in the news again. He’s running around downtown in a trench coat flashing people and trying to punch them in the nuts”
“Yeah, okay, we get it. You dated the Nutsack Bandit. No need to keep bringing it up.”
I thought they started shadow banning anyone talking about Lemmy at one point?
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That happens here constantly
I’ve only ever seen this from the kids over at .ml.
Irony is that people in .ml ban you for not agreeing with their hivemind
I’ve heard this a few times, and then I’ve seen the people that got banned…
.ml seems to be a magnet for people who want to scream explicatives at leftists and throw in some transphobia to boot.
Some people likely deserve getting banned but they have a very fragile echo chamber if they need to ban anyone not toeing the party line.
I was in an argument with someone on .ml unironically calling north Korea democratic and then they banned me because apparently I’m a “chauvinistic westerner” when I disagreed. I found that pretty hilarious.
they have a very fragile echo chamber
They have an active moderator base.
I’ve been banned from plenty of communities already - particularly meme communities - in the wider Fediverse for rubbing a mod the wrong way. It isn’t particular to .ml and it’s silly to see Lemmyites panic every time they see an .ml instance user or post.
unironically calling north Korea democratic
So what? Plenty of people in America call Florida democratic. You’ll be screamed at for suggesting otherwise (Florida voters are just too stupid to vote correctly, you see).
If you get in a pissing contest with a mod or power user, there are plenty of communities that will ban you for being toxic. Either learn to exit the conversation gracefully or stop sticking your dick in the social media blender to begin with. You’re probably better off getting banned than running back in for another screaming match.
I’d argue NK and Florida are on different levels of democratic but I see your point.
You’re probably right with your last paragraph. I do find it amusing to read when they bend backwards trying to defend something that absurd.
How is that ironic?
People claim Lemmy is supposed to be “better” than Reddit but so far I’ve encountered more petty barons here than Reddit
Ah OK. To be fair, we can say Luigi Mangione and Free Palestine here.
Outside of the conservative American subreddits that’s standard too though. I rarely see anyone (not downvoted to hell) claim Israel should continue
You gave up on Reddit because mods can ban you for random reasons unrelated to your behavior? That’s one of a small set of problems that’s literally much worse and more prevalent on Lemmy.
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That was so long ago, it’s just how people in contentious communities dealt with people to save work on mods.
I know because I was involved in those apps and moderating large subs that absolute shitmouthed turds loved to ransack with brigading.
You have no idea how bad brigading was, particularly by the foul, juvenile 4chan-type crowds who would arbitrarily decide something was “pro feminist” and then flood the sub with hate posts until the mods gave up and then they would slip in their own mods and rebrand the whole community.
I genuinely did not care and still do not care if it offended some people that they were pre-banned because they liked to participate in hate communities, for whatever reason. Back then you could make alts and nobody cared so what does it matter.
slip in their own mods and rebrand the whole community
This is what really shocked me about reddit, was how it’s this really huge entity whose owners just somehow didn’t notice that the front page being shown to everyone by default contained stuff from subs that were really very blatantly and obviously manipulated by mods not being on the level. I realize you can’t police every one of the thousands of active subs on there, but what gets to go to the front page shouldn’t need much curation.
It absolutely was and is like that.
The thing is, when those horrible posts got boosted to the front, it just made for more drama, more “engagement” and more links being shared across other social media sites.
Reddit ignoring their responsibility to administrate wasn’t a bug, it was a feature.
It’s the same as what Jubilee is doing now, boosting the worst voices on both sides, making people hate each other more and giving people a distorted view of demographics in our country. It’s line going up at the expense of everything we’ve worked the last several thousand years to build. I’m happy I was banned and will never return, I just wish more people would realize what these places are doing to us all.
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There are a lot bigger things that we had to deal with daily, and there are lot bigger problems with the platforms, communities, and broader social impacts that remained on my mind than the small percentage of people inconvenienced by the decisions some people made to keep their mod teams from being overworked. You’re not the only one butthurt by the bot, but the alternative was worse so I still don’t really care.
So you gave up on it like a decade ago?
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How it feels to browse any reddit community bigger than 10k members:
The auto-moderation is terrible and bans you for the dumbest stuff. Reddit has continually gone downhill the last couple years. Ad’s are out of control, and they love to promote religious ads and that should be illegal.
I was permanently banned for saying Trump’s health was poor and he may be dead before 2028 and wont be able to run for a third term. Banned for inciting violence…
I guess reddit really just wants a site full of bots and 50 people who post the same stuff everyday.
I got banned when I connected to a VPN endpoint (ProtonVPN). Instant, permanent, unappealable ban. 13-year-old account. Sole moderator of a couple subs
Probably for the best though. Screw Reddit
reddit has been coming down hard on vpn users since last year. its futile one they shadowban you, rarely i see peoples ban get lifted on the shadowban sub, apparently and pretty obvious, The user said reddit “made a mistake because thier filters were misconstruing your words for somethng offensive”, i doubt reddit admins have time to look at every appeal, thats why i believe they ignore most of them, if not all accounts that are part of the multiple accounts from a single users.
92 people control about 500+subs on reddit, you can guess which one they are, and the ones less likely to get banned.
I wrote a very fiery letter that I’m sure a bot deleted about how it cheapened the phrase “violence” to have it be slung casually around at speech their shareholders don’t love.
I was banned for saying something to the effect of “Fuck all the Republicans” in response to someone hating on a specific one.
My theory is they are removing all the anti-maga and replacing us with neutral/pro maga bots so it appears that there aren’t so many people against them.
Lol are people still using that shithole?
“Luigi”
your comment has been flagged for hate speech
your comment has been flagged for inciting violence
Your account has been banned.
If you ever make another account it will be automatically banned because our app requires your fucking MAC address.
Does changing your MAC address help? Using a browser instead of a phone app?
If an app can scrape phone info without prompting for extra permissions, you can bet the app dev is scraping that data and storing it alongside session data for security purposes.
Web browsers are much more sandboxed. Still plenty of ways to fingerprint thoGenuinely curious about that. I can’t find any literature or blog posts about that unfortunately.
Not true. They followed me through an extra Gmail I made but made a temporary email and have been fine for close to two months.
It’s run by a fucking dickhead worshipping Musk.
Yeah, and Reddit will permaban anyone talking about “political violence”, ideas like punching Nazis and harassing MAGAts, all the while giving the bastards a free ticket to do shit they want over there like destroying LGBTQ symbols.
There’s like, a billion fucking nazi, incel, misogynist subs on reddit that are just allowed to exist
Tell any one of those subreddit-goers to fuck off for their nazi incel misogynist bullshit? Permabanned
I just got permabanned. I have not had anything so much as a complaint about me in the 12 years I used the site, but in the last 6 months I have received 2 temp and now a perma ban for speaking out against various conservative figure heads.
I got a 24 hour ban for saying a conservative figure should stand on her head and let the blood rush to her brain and maybe she’ll have a coherent thought. I was accused of inciting violence.
Edit: Here are the 3 things I got whacked with “inciting violence”
- Danielle Smith should stand on her head to let the blood rush to her brain to have a coherent thought - 24 hours
- Someone said JD Vance will never be president, and I responded with, “He will when DT has his heart explode from all the cheeseburgers he eats” - 3 days
- Kristi Noem needs to shut her fucking mouth and keep her cunt ass out of my countries business - Perma ban
The other day I made it off hand remark about my desire to take out pent up rage on several sexual predators being shown in a video.
Instant ban of a 13-year-old account for “threatening violence.” I consider it a badge of honor against the fascist platform. Honestly it’s no better than Twitter these days.
Over on the new Digg I got a comment auto moderated by AI for describing a scenario where I angrily shakes my fist at someone and gave them a thumbs down because they almost hit a goose.
Violence
my permanent ban on reddit came when i described how i hoped krasnov would shit himself to death on live television. like, total blowout and then heart attack while eating a nasty sandwich. the full elvis. apparently that’s inciting violence.
I’m pretty sure they stepped up the anti Trump stuff since January. I never had any problems till he was in office. Then i got a 3 day ban, then 7 day ban, then perma ban. Then they banned all my other accounts immediately. They hate people talking poorly about the dictator, but i’ve seen posts that said biden should burn and they stay up…
Most people talking about “punching Nazis” are advocating punching people who are certainly far right but who have not themselves committed or threatened any acts of violence.
The Nazis of the early 20th century were committing genocide and conquest, and the only way to stop them was through violence. But if you’re talking about “punching Nazis” in the context of the UK and Frogage, their odious policies are a long way from justifying threats of violence which are rightly not legal.
In the US where Trump is attempting a fascist takeover, time will tell whether it will take violence to dislodge. But from our position it’s easy to see why a lot of these people get banned.
The Nazis didn’t just appear in Germany fully formed. Read about The Weimar Republic in the 1930s.
We’re long past the “attempted” takeover.
The threshold of Nazi takeover could reasonably be taken to be the Enabling Act. There has been no equivalent in the US.
no ‘equivalent’
yeah it’s not taking over congress, but it was another step towards eliminating checks and balances, one that should never had been taken and hasn’t led to anything positive
I meant to add more but was pushed for time. MAGA has not legislated its authoritarianism - not yet. So far it has been done by executive order and by judicial capture. This makes it hard to judge how resilient the USA will be to it.
They were nazis before the genocide and conquest
What a load of sludgy shit. “from our position” - this a group statement or…? Kinda seems like you got an AI to take your position and write a comment for you - what’s that called again? Nice prompt LLM master.
Firstly,
Most people talking about “punching Nazis” are advocating punching people who are certainly far right but who have not themselves committed or threatened any acts of violence.
Know that do you? Besides, hate based on someone’s religion or ethnicity is an act of violence in of itself.
Beginning In the 1920’s and through the '30’s, years before the Nazis committed “genocide and conquest” the brown shirts and other groups walked through the streets of Germany intimidating and committing acts of violence against those they persecuted and those who disagreed with them. That’s where we are now - or at least where some want to take us - so yes, punch the shit out of Nazi scum and their sympathizers.
Curious, would you have stopped the rise of Nazism by asking them nicely?
hate based on someone’s religion or ethnicity is an act of violence in of itself.
Pull the other one. Violence has a meaning that every English-speaker understands, and hatred does not meet that definition.
Curious, would you have stopped the rise of Nazism by asking them nicely?
Well, the KPD strategy of meeting them in street brawls went so well, didn’t it?
That’s where we are now
So, given that you just issued me a challenge about what I’d do, do I take it you’re out in the street roughing up anyone with a MAGA hat?
If not, then I think you actually understand and agree on a practical level: the situation in the US is not as clear cut as the fight against the Nazis ended up, and which people wish to invoke when they say “punch a Nazi.”
Answers no questions, half-quotes a statement to make a point, completely ignores getting caught using AI to write your comment then edits out the giveaway. Alright mate go ahead you’re doing a great job out here.
All your questions sounded rhetorical to me. I responded to what I had something to respond with.
caught
hahahahahahaha
edits
Are you OK? I haven’t edited any of my comments on here. Is the AI in the room with you now?
Now Reddit is adding AI and streaks
The users have plenty of streaks in their underwear.
White streaks mainly.
I just wish Lemmy had the same subreddit communities on it, the real benefit of Reddit was that you can add it to your search in Google for niche things and it would find threads about that thing, Lemmy on the other hand has either not been indexed as much or just doesn’t have those communities and the organic discussion among them. I think one of the issues with Lemmy is there is some friction to joining it, you need to figure out what an instance is and which one you wanna join and then figure out an app to access Lemmy and then find the communities that interest you etc. Compare that with something like BlueSky for Twitter replacement, it’s easy to sign up and follow peoplw and they gave a official app
It’s a smaller site, as evident that your subscriptions and even the default homepage barely crawls by and there’s often days with almost no new content.
Lemmy is not going to be the future of shared internet space, but it’s a good Purgatory for the exiled before we all decide to start doing things outside.
lemmy largely get reddit users, if reddit started banning in large amounts again. but i think they caught on to the fact that if they do perma-site wide ban too many people will notice and they will jump ship too fast.
thats why shadowbans are much more insidious, people might not even notice right away that they were shadowbanned.
people might not even notice right away that they were shadowbanned.
It’s feeling very strongly like their ideal platform has millions of shadowbanned users, or more correctly, millions of users in their own instanced versions of reddit, populated entirely by AI creating the impression of community, influencing and shaping the attitudes, behavior, political beliefs and shopping habits of entire nations.
The massive influx of bots pretending to be humans doesn’t really bode well for the future of social media.
the most recent ones, palintir was blatantly obvious, i dont know if reddit has done anything about these subreddits that PALINTIR is using right now,
Im pretty sure I am on a Canadian based instance… which is fine by me. But I tried a couple that where branded as general, good for new users, and just never got a confirmation for my account, could never log in. I tried this one, cause the name implied it would work. And it did!
But yea I miss the large communities for a specific video game, and the various large mtg communities. And yea, for tech support I do still add reddit to my search queries.
Yes I ran into the same issue where you sign up to an instance and then it says that the admins will verify your account for approval and then I can’t log in for a while and forgot which instances I even signed up for, that alone probably caused a bunch of potential lemmings to not join I think. I still go to reddit for discussions about random TV show episodes discussions and other niche communities, there’s sadly no other equivalent easy to search forum that I know of for these things, hopping Lemmy becomes as huge as reddit in the future for this purpose
It’s the same problem Linux suffers from. Too many flavors, not one that almost everyone considers the best.
Yeah I agree. I feel like I’m still figuring it out and missing things. I switched to BlueSky and feel like that was almost intuitive. That’s one of the big issues with moving away from reddit for a lot of users.
Yeah what happened to that Lemmy search thing someone was working on
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
The worst part is the Contributor Quality Score, which is the subjective version of karma.
If you’re not a bot, then you have to spend a lot of real time producing acceptable content to get to do anything YOU want to do. You literally have to grind Reddit to be able to post in some subs, even if your account is older than the hills and has positive karma.
Hate that shit, Reddit’s decline started when individual users started to become sanctioned superusers and did away with the veil of equal-ish participation.
Generally all things done there to scale your feed based on recent activity suck too.
It’s infuriating how much time and energy is extracted from everyone chasing hidden and arbitrary metrics that serve some opaque corporate interest.
Thank you for including a link; this sounds like a fucking joke.
First time I’m hearing of the CQS. Wow, just wow. Dystopian shit.
New account experience on Reddit in 2025:
- Create an account;
- Post something on a subreddit that has AutoMod configured to instantly remove posts/comments from new accounts, accounts with low karma or accounts with low CQS;
- Get a site-wide shadowban because your first contribution was removed;
- If you’re unaware of shadowbans, keep using the site, leaving comments, thinking nobody replies to you because you’re not that interesting;
- If you’re aware of them, keep trying to appeal with zero effect.
Fuck Steve Huffman and fuck his enshittified site.
I recently started what’s probably my 15th account for a single topic. Same exact thing happened to me.
Is that what reddit looks like now??? Gross.
Yes, but add entire threads that are nothing but [removed]
I’m just curious where all the users went if places like Lemmy arent growing. Piefed I heard was growing, but I kind of assumed they are getting users who are switching from Lemmy and still perusing the same content, just preferred their client options
they want a read only site, filled with fake bots, and fake engagement. for the purpose of being read only, for advertisement, or they are planning onf selling the site down the line. the gop and musk, thiel would very much like to have control of something like reddit, especially musk, since he has triggered 2 ban waves when he complained to reddit(they were criticizing him).
ever since REDDIT went public thats whats been happening.
The engagement farming is reaching facebook levels.
that is what reddit is trying to achieve, become a facebook clone. matter of time they push the verification that FACEBOOK uses to make accounts, if they get"suspicious"
After being there for 12 years, I was banned for no reason I know of. Appealed it a bunch of times and finally gave up. Done with reddit. Maybe I’ll grab content from there for here.
Same, also 12 years in and no history of problems. Quoted someone calling a female user a “bitch” so they couldn’t edit and reported them, I got flagged and banned from the large subreddit for “using a slur.” I appealed and had the pleasure of talking to a
modgrade-schooler with temper problems so the appeal was denied and as a result, somehow… for reasons that are still unclear, my entire account was then banned. Admins did not care. I made a new account and was shadowbanned immediately.I could go through the hoops and change my IP and all that fun stuff if I really want to participate on reddit.
But I don’t.
even if they lifted a ban, people have reported being re-shadowbanned almost quickly anyways, because they dont clean out thier filters, after someone ban has been lifted. you only need to look at reddit wrong to get banned. new users, old accounts are not safe.
only the determined people will ban evade, have new IP address, new device, and other methods of ban evasions. those that make hundreds if not thousands of accounts to earn money from.
Yah I went through all that, you have to really clean your browser before and after resetting your IP, and if you use anything connected to your old account you will be immediately shadowbanned, as well as if you use a VPN to sign up, or even to log in.
I eventually gave up, it’s too much work to interact with bots and brainless people.
browser canvas size, fingerprinting, they look at your screen resolution, your browser size, the current version, if your browser is minimized,etc. there are ways to hide that, but you probably have to go to a different forums how to do it.
I heard about that from my darkweb days. It’s amazing how much of a fingerprint everyone leaves. I decided that if I have to fire up TOR and encryption to talk to redditors who are often bots anyway, it’s probably a dead platform
yes i would love for you to consider lemmy as your new base for you
Lemmy has more personal interaction but it’s still a deeply niche culture made up largely of younger white males who really, really like linux and while I align with leftists, it gets tiring seeing leftists and tankies bickering with each other rather than real debates between people with actual divergent ideology. While reddit also has it’s own demographic problems, there are places where you can get a broader range of ideas and diversity.
Can I just say, without invalidating your underlying concerns, that this place truly gets better when you start blocking communities and individuals, and doing so knee-jerk if necessary with no thought or remorse.
The tip of the identity iceberg doesn’t need to come into play, really. I’ve learned that in this world there are contributors and detractors. There are those who add, and those who take. There are good faith contributors, and there are misanthropes who aren’t happy until everybody else isn’t happy.
I don’t care what race or age a person is, if there’s an MS article and the only thing they do is show up to vandalize the comments section with the single word Linux… I’m blocking the fuck out of 'em immediately. I block people confidently braying opinions where you need but scratch the surface to see how ill-considered they are. I feel no duty to correct these people or listen to another word, its not my job to fix them. Blocked. Show up in a legitimate policy discussion just to bash out fuck [politician]"? Blocked - dialogue at the level of a surly grade 8 student isn’t my jam.
Would I want a friend IRL that just says whatever’s convenient at any time, regardless of how germane, factual, useful, or genuine? Or would I avoid them IRL because they’re a nightmare? That internal reflection guides a lot of my block decisions. Also why I find it so easy.
To summarize my novella, I think this is how I made my Lemmy experience more sane, because it was borderline intolerable at first. To the plus, it only took about 20 or 30 blocks to realize that almost all of the toxicity arose from a small batch of select kooks.
I fully appreciate the advice, and I have been hammering the block button, but every time I do a small part of my faith in humanity chips away like a crumbling old statue the represented a forgotten empire.
I am sad that so many people are unthinking, unfeeling, or deeply unserious where it matters. But here we are, forced to prune and further the atomization of our failed world because there is no alternative. There’s no arguing nor reasoning with people who interact with others only to address their inner feelings and not with care or consideration that we share an objective reality we have to agree on.
With AI and immersive experiences, this is all going to get even worse.
Talk about dramatic. Bro just block people and get on with your life.
hello (third world shithole, failed cs student reporting here)
I just got an automatic 3 day ban (presumably because my comment contained the word “murder”) so I said “fuck it”, deleted my comments and posts, and deleted my account
I’ll admit the streaks kept me hooked to at least checking in daily. Then I got a permaban so I couldn’t do streaks anymore so I stopped using the site.
Feels like some apps a speeding the enshitification, before the beta is even public the app is dead from AI bots
Fun fact: the “Enshittification” article on Wikipedia has Reddit among the examples.
