But Disney has also been tearing down the imaginary heroes with movies like Captain America Civil War and The Last Jedi.
I have been thinking the superhero movies were having many fascist themes themselves. And their popularity was helped by a growing authoritarian movement in the USA.
The actual comics do not have many of the above issues, the movies reinforced certain themes.
I say this as someone who liked the comic books for many decades
I pissed off a lot of, supposedly left leaning, comic book fans when I told them I thought Tony Stark had a good point that the super heroes in the MCU needed to be regulated. They were doing too much investigating and acting on their own without any oversight to not make people nervous. Same with Justice League Unlimited.
At least with Superman(2025), the hero’s intervention in world affairs was just a scaled up Bystander Effect.
Yeah it’s not great the way supers tend to validate vigilantism. Ultimately you can have rule of law or some form of tyranny. There are middle grounds, but those are the options. Also the hero’s journey literary paradigm has regressive aspects. 🤓
I like the comic where Batman beats up a racist cop
JK Rowling wrote a whole book series about how bullying is a horrible and self-perpetuating cycle, and now spends most of her time bullying a marginalised group
I don’t know about that, she is being viciously attacked for having opinions that fall outside of the mainstream and is defending herself. Which is not the same as what the Republicans are doing.
Her opinions are old school mainstream. She’s against the culture shift and if she existed decades ago, she’s be more opening racist rather then transphobic.
She’s bringing her opinions to parliament and using them to kill people
What do you mean?
No.
Other people’s right to exist is not just “an opinion outside of the mainstream”, and she is not just quietly “having” these opinions.
Delete your post and don’t make anything like it again. Zero fucking tolerance for Nazis.
Edit: wait I just had a look and this is a 5-day old troll account posting nazi shit all over Lemmy. Reporting and blocking
No. You guys spend so much time and energy attacking any of your allies that do not align with you on every issue that you end up throwing them into the arms of the far right.
Meanwhile the ones actually sponsoring these attacks on the trans don’t give a shit when you attack them do they?
It’s only people on the left that actually care and are forced to go on the defensive from you.
Seriously you should delete your post. Cuz you are a big part of the problem here. JK Rowling is entitled to her own opinion and if you guys did not spend every waking moment attacking her for it she would not be talking about it all the time.
You wonder why the Republicans get so much play off of talking about the wolf mob? Because we are all associated with you.
Rowling likes to hang out with Nazis because they agree on trans rights and that’s more important to her than anything else
“Alternative Facts” and opinions that do not correlate with reality (like the “opinion” that trans people or any other vulnerable group are in any way lesser beings or do not have the right to exist) are either mental derangement or straight up lies. and these lies are poisonous for communities and lead to to prejudice and violence, so they have to be called out and stopped whenever possible.
Just like yours.
If you knew so much, how come you lost the fight for a trans rights? Something you are doing isn’t working. I think it is your spending all your energy attacking people that are naturally our allies for not conforming while the ones that need to be attacked are not. The Charlie Kirk is left on molested, but the JK Rowling who says she does not believe trans women or women gets unrelented hatred.
Or we could look at someone who points that out to you, would you attack for hate. You guys just lob ad hominem attackswith no respect to how accurate they are. That they put the person on the defensive is the point. Also though, if the right was popular in your circles, you would be doing all this from the right wing point of view, this is an excuse for you to Lynch someone online isn’t it? That is why everybody hates the so-called woke mob, that’s you!
What are you talking about? Cause it really sounds a lot like you are just full of shit.
Lol bro wtf
Nobody that starts to reply with WTF and LOL ever makes it worthwhile point.
k lol
I would normally agree with that, but in this case it’s really the only appropriate response. Did you even see the absolute idiocy khaleer was responding to? I mean, WTF, LOL.
Idiots will think that non idiotic things are idiotic I would add.
Such as that you guys are attacking people that will go on the defensive, that are not part of the actual problem, and ignore the people that are the actual problem.
In doing so you give the whole movement of bad name. That is the real WTF here, and it is ammunition for the far right.
Who gives a fuck if JK Rowling has a less than enlightened view on trans people? Like other than a passing fuck you on that JK rowling, is that what’s really important here?
Years now you guys have been just piling on, single-mindedly. Meanwhile you got this Kirk dick face on full-throated attacks on trans people, where are you on that huh? He doesn’t go on the defensive so you don’t attack him.
Who gives a fuck if JK Rowling has a less than enlightened view on trans people? Like other than a passing fuck you on that JK rowling, is that what’s really important here?
If money and fame didn’t equate political influence, then yeah, no-one would give a fuck about her personal opinions.
As it is though, she’s a billionaire who has helped fund and push through anti-trans (bathroom) legislation in the UK.
JK Rowling backs protest over Scottish gender bill
I read her posts about the issue and didn’t find them in and of themselves that problematic if that was just some person’s view. But, again, she’s an influential billionaire who wants to push through laws which actively endanger trans people.
I still like Harry Potter though, but I’m not gonna fund it in any way. And haven’t, for like 20 years.
I do not know all the ins and outs, I do know she also opposed Scotland going for Independence which I think was a big mistake for them not to do. She obviously does not have the best opinions or analysis. Still though I think the reaction to her has been outsized to the amount of influence she would have had if not for being constantly attacked.
These hedge fund douchebags quietly fund this stuff and cause way more damage than she does without mention for instance.
There are no shortage of villains, and she is rather small potatoes. Also though it throws people into the arms of the far right over attacking a popular persona. She would not be meeting with Far Right figures or sponsoring legislation if not for an outsized vicious attack against her shitty opinions.
Duh, that’s a point.
It’s not just Disney… I’m pretty sure all these 1st world nations do the same. We’ve been used and manipulated and suckered into complacency from their offerings and or marketed false promises.
Someone should make a parody of that. Like Disney makes a superhero called “Free School Lunch Man” while funding candidates who are against that idea.
Superheros also just preach that you have to maintain the status quo, never tackle the root of the problem, just violently attack the symptoms and that only a small few special people can save you, so everybody else just has to get out of the way and cheer.
Iron Man is about Iron Man realising that selling weapons is bad
V for Vendetta
Yeah the exception that proves the rule but still, anarchy-man is cool
You’re talking about Disney movies. Intended for children. They’re not gonna go shoot someone in the head because they’re responsible for denied health insurance.
Why are you expecting kids movies to be an accurate intricate commentary of society in the first place?
It’s movies, for kids. Most people grow out of that. But some keep being obsessed with “superheroes”
I like Black Adam, he kills colonisers
While this is a good narrative to make about Disney if we want to hate on them, it’s not true though.
The Disney movies for kids is almost all about not maintaining status quo and actually challenge it. Or being different than anyone else
Frozen and Moana are recent examples. Pirates of Caribbean for an older audience. There’s many more.
Disney kids movies aren’t about super heroes usually. But even Lion King is how you can’t escape adult responsibilities and have to continue the cycle.
You forgot the peasants cheering the birth of their new predator
Also the very much incest.
That sounds like the villains’ motive in My Hero Academia. A good series about superheroes, and what it means to be a hero. And what it means for those who aren’t qualified to work as heroes but do, or try to do heroic things (the fourth season addresses this, as will the upcoming final season (it was in the manga, which is complete), and the Vigilantes spinoff directly covers it.
This just came out and shows this theme. It is awesome Knights of Guinevere: pilot https://youtu.be/MCAdbUaMlAE
Y’all see the latest Captain America movie? The one where the whole moral was “maybe we can still appeal to their better nature?”
You still watching that crap?
Well, yeah, this is like saying Santa Claus isn’t real lol
Does Santa Clus support genocides?
Not to my knowledge, but that fucker, the Easter Bunny, Leprechauns, and Tooth Fairy all support/practice breaking and entering!
No, just slavery.
Since Santa isn’t real, I would say the answer is a definitive, no.
Santa has an ethnicly homogenous slave workforce trapped in a secret location facing sub-zero work conditions and runs a global child surveillance system supporting an opaque punishment algorithm.
There is no way he’s a good guy.
Dumbledore is Santa Claus?
Both are old, bearded, and project a friendly, wise-grandfather image.
Both lead a closed community with strict hierarchies.
Both have elf slave labor.
Both run surveillance operations: Dumbledore has the portraits, Fawkes, the Marauder’s Map (by proxy), and Santa has the Naughty-or-Nice list.
Both maintain a mystique that disguises how much control they actually wield.
However, I still think Santa is more likely to be evil.
Not for long, soon Disney heroes will be exposing the all-powerful wokestate and overthrowing it.
The woke State stopping supply-side economics that leads to Prosperity obviously.
Roger Meyers, Sr., the gentle genius behind Itchy & Scratchy loved and cared about almost all the peoples of the world
Now look at who’s running Nintendo (of America). Guy named Bowser. That will never not be funny. (Coincidentally, a guy who hacked one of their consoles and is now essentially a wage slave to them, forced to give up like half his paycheck to them, is also named Bowser.)
Disney and Nintendo are both widely loved companies that have done some very bad things for the world. Maybe the true villains. But, like anything and anyone else, it’s shades of grey, neither of them are completely diabolically evil.
neither of them are completely diabolically evil
You sure? I don’t see any redeeming qualities in Disney nor Nintendo.
As always, companies aren’t people, they are comprised of people. Not all of these people are diabolically evil. And even then, likely the people making the diabolically evil decisions have some streak in them that’s not diabolically evil.
For example, you can’t honestly say that none of the Disney movies had any positive effect on people. Same with stuff that Nintendo does.
Sure, overall the verdict is “diabolically evil”. But there are positives within the overwhelmingly negative.
I mean, Mengele had positive effect on medicine, doesn’t make him a bad guy with some redeeming qualities. Same with the people deciding stuff in huge corporations.
Nintendo and Disney aren’t evil because they’re cooperations, not people. It’s the people who sit on top of Disney and Nintendo who are either diabolically evil or spineless cowards who want money and power but are too scared to use it for good. Either way, Nintendo and Disney “don’t serve the public interest”.
Ok fanboy
It is any better.
It’s also not okay what DC did, but the transgressions are very different in scale.
Kimmel was faired for saying “MAGA is trying to make it look like the shooter wasn’t a MAGA activist”, while Felker-Martin got fired for saying “it’s a good thing Kirk can no longer take part in podcasts.”
I don’t think either of those is grounds for firing, but it’s not good to bring them to the same level.
